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From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 16:55 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > T Wake wrote: > >> >> "Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> wrote > >> >> > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> >> Jamie wrote: > >> > >> >> >>>and what part did the UK play in this? was it something > >> >> >>>to do with a Boston Tea party? and the red coats landing > >> >> >>>on our shores? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Who do you think created Boston and why does it have the name of an > >> >> >> English town? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Graham > >> >> >> > >> >> > we were just being nice to you, so that we could make our big > >> >> > move!:) > >> >> > >> >> Yeah, New York, Washington, New Jersey, New Bedford, Salisbury, > >> >> Richmond, > >> >> Rockingham, Southport, Fairfax, York, Lancaster, Newark, Hempstead, > >> >> Southampton, Bristol, Hartford, Warwick, Worcester (etc) weren't > >> >> enough. > >> >> You > >> >> had to name Boston "Boston" as well... > >> > > >> > St Albans even ! > >> > >> Must have been scraping the barrel there.... > > > > That's where I live you see. > > [Shudder] > > Poor you. It's a lot better than most of the towns round here. It's quite nice in fact. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 16:58 John Larkin wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:45:22 +0100, "T Wake" > >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Using force to make other nations act in the way America wants them to is, > >> >and should always be, unacceptable. It doesn't matter if America has their > >> >(other nation) best interests at heart. > >> > >> That is the heart of the issue. If Idi Amin or Pol Pot decides to kill > >> a few million of "their own" citizens, do they have the soverign right > >> to do so? Is there any such thing as universal human rights? Does the > >> government of China "own" Tibet or Taiwan? Do we stand aside from > >> genocides and starvation because intervention is, for some reason, > >> "unacceptable"? > > > >So you'd support a war on Zimbabwe ? > > If there are universal human rights, and the UN or some other > broad-based coalition believes in them, it seems to me that we cannot > avoid intervention when a madman decides to starve a few million of > his own population. If there are no human rights, then only power > matters, so quit whining about the USA doing whatever it can. You put the UN and the USA in the same context above. Why was that ? > Please take this issue seriously and tell me what you think. I haven't > entirely resolved this myself, but I don't see that Kim has the right > to rule Korea as a god and kill millions, I don't either. > and have a voting seat on > the UN to legitimize him as "head of state." I think *the world* > shouldn't allow this sort of horror. He is de-factor Head of State. Would you deny N Korea a seat at the UN ? Graham
From: John Larkin on 16 Oct 2006 16:59 On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:06:58 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:egt5lk$8u0_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <b972j2hg5vph0kft82futt7v3sd8r5penb(a)4ax.com>, >> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:43:04 +0100, Eeyore >>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>The rest of the world loathes the USA. They didn't used to. You've had to >> work hard to >>>>get to that position. >>> >>>From a eurocentric point of view, maybe so. But India and China and >>>Japan and Africa don't count, apparently. >> >> Nor the eastern countries of Europe. > >While I don't agree with the rest of the world loathes the US argument, it >is undeniable that most countries in the world have a low opinion of >"America" (as an entity) and it's actions on the world stage. > So all those people are emigrating here accidentally, based on some misunderstanding about geography? John
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 17:01 John Larkin wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:10:12 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan > <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: > > >Evangelicals in the US account for some 30% of the population. Of > >those, the really scary crazy ones are a significant subfraction. But > >a potentially very dangerous portion. > > > >If you wanted to visit here, I'd easily drive you to a few huge places > >where they have their own special "schools" and fenced homes areas and > >I'm pretty sure you'd leave here uncontrollably shaking and preparing > >yourself for a coming Armageddon. > > > >It's enough serious that it cannot be ignored as an influence and it > >really needs to be nipped, somehow. > > > >Jon > > > > Oh relax. The USA has always had a healthy share of loonies, > Theosiphists and nudists and communists and hippie communes and > golfers and gun nuts. Do you propose to "nip" people who don't vote to > your liking? Those don't account for 30% of the population who can be persuaded to vote en-bloc though. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 17:04
John Larkin wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>>Eeyore<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>The rest of the world loathes the USA. They didn't used to. You've had to > >> work hard to get to that position. > >>> > >>>From a eurocentric point of view, maybe so. But India and China and > >>>Japan and Africa don't count, apparently. > >> > >> Nor the eastern countries of Europe. > > > >While I don't agree with the rest of the world loathes the US argument, it > >is undeniable that most countries in the world have a low opinion of > >"America" (as an entity) and it's actions on the world stage. > > > So all those people are emigrating here accidentally, based on some > misunderstanding about geography? Accidentally ? I think the Mexicans know which way is North. Graham |