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From: Frank Bemelman on 16 Oct 2006 14:56 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> schreef in bericht news:zoidnXWyvpSkTa7YnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)pipex.net... > > Still, I have no doubt that one day it will happen. The die hard Europhobe > in my wants it to be _after_ my lifetime but I am sensible enough to > realise this is an emotional response, not a logical or reasonable one. > Generally speaking though, trying to forge nations without a common > background is fraught with disaster. All the different languages don't help much either. Lots of little things that can cause friction. It will take some time, but the situation in the world urges to speed up the process. The lack of common background is present and strong, but there's plenty of common problems and perhaps that is the magic glue we need. -- Thanks, Frank. (remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)
From: David Brown on 16 Oct 2006 14:56 Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:43:13 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Jonathan Kirwan wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: <snip> >>>> Graham >>> Sometimes I don't think Europeans understand the religious atmosphere >>> here in the US and probably no imagination for the extreme reaches of >>> it or how it actually influences politics here. I have a hard time, >>> too, so here is a page that paints one of the extreme but important >>> influences: >>> >>> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/105122/66 >>> >>> In the latter part of it you will see how "thinking" is blocked and >>> dismantled. >>> >>> Imagine living in the middle of this. I do. >> It's insane. It's gobbledegook. >> >> I can't even relate to this. It's like a bad dream. > > It's all your folks' fault, considering who you sent over here a few > centuries ago. ;) > > It is real. It is scary. They are here and they have a LOT of money > and political clout. Tens of billions of dollars each year, mostly > going into capital assets according to some gov't reports I've read. > (I posted a link here providing the magnitude, already.) The Rev. Sun > Myung Moon (one of those coercive religious leaders) and our US > leadership were at his self-coronation as messiah. > > Look it up. It was a March 23rd, 2004 ceremony. > > The Rev. also funds a college building or two at the George C Marshall > Institute and pretty much carries a lot of influence around Washington > DC. > I just read about the Rev. Moon being a large sponsor of both G.H.W.Bush and Kim Il. Talk about fanning the flames! http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/101006a.html (I don't have any second source to confirm this article, but see no particular reason to deny it given what is commonly known about the "moonies" and their leader.) > Evangelicals in the US account for some 30% of the population. Of > those, the really scary crazy ones are a significant subfraction. But > a potentially very dangerous portion. > > If you wanted to visit here, I'd easily drive you to a few huge places > where they have their own special "schools" and fenced homes areas and > I'm pretty sure you'd leave here uncontrollably shaking and preparing > yourself for a coming Armageddon. > > It's enough serious that it cannot be ignored as an influence and it > really needs to be nipped, somehow. > > Jon > > > P.S. > Here's just the initial snippet of one news report. Note that this > was a congressional reception: > ------------------- > > The Rev. Moon Honored at Hill Reception > Lawmakers Say They Were Misled > > By Charles Babington and Alan Cooperman > > Washington Post Staff Writers > Wednesday, June 23, 2004; Page A01 > > More than a dozen lawmakers attended a congressional reception this > year honoring the Rev. Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself > the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be > "reborn as new persons." > > At the March 23 ceremony in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, ...
From: T Wake on 16 Oct 2006 14:57 "Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> wrote in message news:cIAYg.1112$di5.603(a)newsfe06.lga... > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> Jamie wrote: >> >> >>>Eeyore wrote: >>> >>>>John Larkin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>It's the countries we saved, specifically France and Britain, that are >>>>>the most rabid critics. >>>> >>>>Nothing to do with the war. >>>> >>>>We simply have the experience of world affairs to see the faults that >>>>need >>>>criticism. >>>> >>>>You might stop to think which 2 European countries had most to do with >>>>early N >>>>America whilst your at it. >>>> >>>>Graham >>> >>> >>>and what part did the UK play in this? was it something >>>to do with a Boston Tea party? and the red coats landing >>>on our shores? >> >> >> Who do you think created Boston and why does it have the name of an >> English town? >> >> Graham >> > we were just being nice to you, so that we could make our big move!:) Yeah, New York, Washington, New Jersey, New Bedford, Salisbury, Richmond, Rockingham, Southport, Fairfax, York, Lancaster, Newark, Hempstead, Southampton, Bristol, Hartford, Warwick, Worcester (etc) weren't enough. You had to name Boston "Boston" as well...
From: Frank Bemelman on 16 Oct 2006 14:58 "David Brown" <david.brown(a)hesbynett.removethisbit.no> schreef in bericht news:4533c56e$0$16503$8404b019(a)news.wineasy.se... > Anyway, there is a big difference between being evil, ruthless, sadistic, > or otherwise inhumane, and being crazy. I attribute a lot of the trouble > the USA has with dealing with terrorism and other unpleasant behaviour to > a tendency to assume that anyone who doesn't see the USA and the American > way of life as the pinnacle of civilisation as "crazy", rather than trying > to understand their point of view. That is very very true. -- Thanks, Frank. (remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)
From: T Wake on 16 Oct 2006 14:59
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:qZDYg.11107$TV3.7144(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > news:ged5j2h9n9pajnnp1hqgklgbceri0lucev(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:19:39 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>T Wake wrote: >>> >>>> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote >>>> >>>> > It's hard to give up the cop >>>> > business after doing it for so long. >>>> >>>> Police are accountable to the people they police, right or wrong. The >>>> US is >>>> accountable to no one. It is not a global police force. >>> >>>Not even accountable to the International Court in fact. I wonder why >>>that is ? >>>Something to do with being held to account maybe ? >> >> --- >> Nope, it's because we're so thoroughly disliked that if any of us >> were ever brought into an international court, for any reason, it >> would be impossible for us to get a fair trial. > > Now *there's* a convenient excuse to avoid being held accountable for > one's actions. Without addressing _why_ they are so disliked. There isn't even a "hawk[*]" consensus on if America is actually disliked on a global scale. [*] Yes, I know it is an inappropriate use of the term. I am using this to block together the posters on this thread who advocate the US continue its global conquests. |