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From: T Wake on 16 Oct 2006 16:28 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4533EAF3.B6A3CEBA(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> > T Wake wrote: >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> >> > JoeBloe wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Why don't we ask someone like Steven Biko... Oh... that's >> >> >> right... >> >> >> we can't. You bastards murdered him. >> >> > >> >> > Absolutely *nothing* to do with Britain, the Empire or whatever. >> >> > >> >> > Have you never heard of the RSA ? Republic of South Africa. An >> >> > independent >> >> > country. >> >> >> >> Especially as it was an different European country which colonised >> >> most >> >> of >> >> South Africa. You can blame Britain for the first Concentration Camps >> >> though. >> > >> > They were somewhat different to the German variety though. >> >> Well less gas and less Jews, more Boers though... >> >> The problem is, some people in this debate think that saying "The Brits >> did >> [INSERT HISTORY SNIP]" so you cant criticise the US for doing it. This is >> madness. It is like going to court for assault and saying "you cant jail >> me >> that guy over there beat some one up fifty years ago." > > Quite so, although I'll happily compare UK internment of foreign aliens > during > WW2 with what the Americans did with their Japanese. True. London house did see some naughty goings on though, although IIRC they were all captured not interned.
From: T Wake on 16 Oct 2006 16:30 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:3cq7j2les0tq6s02ukal85hu2020j11r78(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:04:04 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>John Larkin wrote: >> >>> Ah, your concern is not about peace. It's not about democracy, or >>> human rights, or the health or nutrition or safety of the poorest >>> people in the world. >> >>And the USA'a *IS* ????? >> >>Graham > > I think the theory is that a democratic world, with free people and > free trade, will be better for everybody, us included. I've heard lots > worse theories. So, this theory will be enforced upon people whether they want it or not? > What's your version of utopia? Choice.
From: T Wake on 16 Oct 2006 16:31 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4533EB3D.33F5EF66(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> > T Wake wrote: >> >> "Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> wrote >> >> > Eeyore wrote: >> >> >> Jamie wrote: >> >> >> >>>and what part did the UK play in this? was it something >> >> >>>to do with a Boston Tea party? and the red coats landing >> >> >>>on our shores? >> >> >> >> >> >> Who do you think created Boston and why does it have the name of an >> >> >> English town? >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham >> >> >> >> >> > we were just being nice to you, so that we could make our big >> >> > move!:) >> >> >> >> Yeah, New York, Washington, New Jersey, New Bedford, Salisbury, >> >> Richmond, >> >> Rockingham, Southport, Fairfax, York, Lancaster, Newark, Hempstead, >> >> Southampton, Bristol, Hartford, Warwick, Worcester (etc) weren't >> >> enough. >> >> You >> >> had to name Boston "Boston" as well... >> > >> > St Albans even ! >> >> Must have been scraping the barrel there.... > > That's where I live you see. [Shudder] Poor you. :-)
From: T Wake on 16 Oct 2006 16:31 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4533E94A.DC727267(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> > "Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> wrote. >> >> John Larkin wrote: >> >> >> >>> Some cultures worship death. Yuk. >> >>> >> >> maybe death is a better alternative in those >> >> cultures? >> > >> > And which cultures would those be, that worship death? >> >> Christianity. > > Very good point. As I don't practice any religion I'd nearly forgotten > that. Know the Enemy :-)
From: John Larkin on 16 Oct 2006 16:32
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:13:29 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:45:22 +0100, "T Wake" >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >Using force to make other nations act in the way America wants them to is, >> >and should always be, unacceptable. It doesn't matter if America has their >> >(other nation) best interests at heart. >> >> That is the heart of the issue. If Idi Amin or Pol Pot decides to kill >> a few million of "their own" citizens, do they have the soverign right >> to do so? Is there any such thing as universal human rights? Does the >> government of China "own" Tibet or Taiwan? Do we stand aside from >> genocides and starvation because intervention is, for some reason, >> "unacceptable"? > >So you'd support a war on Zimbabwe ? If there are universal human rights, and the UN or some other broad-based coalition believes in them, it seems to me that we cannot avoid intervention when a madman decides to starve a few million of his own population. If there are no human rights, then only power matters, so quit whining about the USA doing whatever it can. Please take this issue seriously and tell me what you think. I haven't entirely resolved this myself, but I don't see that Kim has the right to rule Korea as a god and kill millions, and have a voting seat on the UN to legitimize him as "head of state." I think *the world* shouldn't allow this sort of horror. John |