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From: MooseFET on 29 Oct 2006 10:15 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote in message > news:1162051292.871997.222400(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > [....] > >> Well, since electric cars are neither practical nor economically > >> competitive > >> with fossil fuel ICE, I guess we're never going to find out. Nobody will > >> buy electric cars, > > > > This is not actually true. Lots of people will buy electric cars when > > they can be had at a reasonable cost. > > When will that be? Not any time soon, as near as I can tell. You can count on them not being american made. The US auto industry didn't make small fuel efficient cars in the 1970s. They were very late getting any sort of hybrid on the road. There are people who add extra batteries to the Prius so that it can go some distance as a pure electric. It seems the hardware for doing this is already mostly in place because Toyota is keeping their options open. The controller circuits already have the needed input for the extra button on the dash board. > > They are not practical for long > > commutes but as I sure the folks in Florida will confirm, even the golf > > cart will work as a way to get the old folks to the 7-11[1]. > > And therein lies a major problem. The American lifestyle does not admit of > a vehicle that cannot reliably tranport them > 150 miles per day. People > simply will not buy them until forced to. When the price of oil hits about $100, I'd expect to start seeing people get them as the second car. Americans typically have one car per person and an extra one for the pets. > > The electric car has the advantage that you don't need to drive it to > > the gas station to fill it up. For many this would be the longest trip > > they would take. > > But by far those are the minority, whether you're counting vehicles or miles > driven. And replacing them with electric cars will have almost zero impact > on the amount of oil we consume, for a long time. I disagree because these people are the market that gets the electric car started. From there it will expand into the longer commutes if battery technology improves or gas goes way up in price. > > Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 29 Oct 2006 12:22 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>>> You people are not thinking! Scenario: oil imports stop. > >>> > >>>So who's going to be buying the oil instead of the USA ? Where did the oil > go ? > >> > >> If production hasn't been stopped, China, India, and parts of Europe > >> in exchange for capitulation. > >> > >> /BAH > > > >They're suddenly going to increase their oil consumption by over a factor of > >10??? > > They already have. It's going to be more. Not ten times more though is it ? And not 'overnight' either. Graham
From: Eeyore on 29 Oct 2006 12:25 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>Muslims *love* trade. > >> > >> Barter trade. Not capitalism trade. > > > >Uh....what's the difference? Oh yeah, I forgot, we don't have a World > >Barter Center. > > No common money. Bartering is face-to-face exchange of goods. So you're now suggesting that Muslims really don't engage in trade involving currency ? The facts say otherwise. Graham
From: krw on 29 Oct 2006 12:27 In article <o1v1k2t54sj0bo0omvce6i1as65tn1kqva(a)4ax.com>, jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says... > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:28:16 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >John Larkin wrote: > > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> > > >> >> > Haven't you ever wondered why he hadn't if they [Clinton's anti-terror > >> >> plans] were so > comprehensive and complete and effective? > >> >> > >> >> He did, some of them, while he was in office. Implementation of these > >> >> things takes time. Bush was unable to do anything in 9 months > >> > > >> >Because he was too busy taking time off to play golf. > >> > >> Clinton played a lot more golf, and cheated. > > > >He didn't take as much time off though. > > > >How do you cheat at golf btw ? > > > >Graham > > Mulligan. Secret service agents strategically placed out-of-bounds. "Oh look at that. It bounced back into the fairway; musta hit a tree." Why do you think WJC and KJI got together so fabulously well? -- Keith
From: Eeyore on 29 Oct 2006 12:35
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>Largely financial institutions as far as I know. That's not exclusively > >>>about world trade. > >> > >> You overlooked the commodities and shipping businesses. > > > >Still not the centre of world trade. There are more economically important > >buildings in New York, let alone globally. > > You are exhibiting complete idiocy. It was the people, their knowledge > and the data that mattered. The data's very unlikely to have been lost and at the end of the day it was only 2602 deaths in New York of which 403 were Fire, Police and Port Authority workers. That makes 2199 deaths in the towers. How many of those were truly 'key workers' ? Maybe 1/4 ? Ok so that's 550 key workers lost. A large number but not irreplaceable as is seen by the evidence. Graham |