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From: unsettled on 30 Oct 2006 19:01 Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <ehvl4j$8qk_001(a)s1270.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <9hJ0h.787$wX.77(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ehvb5g$8qk_007(a)s964.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>>>In article <1161873433.497805.165040(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, >>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In article <1161700854.976916.304350(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> >>>>>[....] >>>>> >>>>>>>The nuclear power industry has a history of making false promices and >>>>>>>screwing up badly. As a result the idea of making a new power plant >>>>>>>isn't very popular. Strangley enough research into the theory that >>>>>>>makes them go is still fairly popular. This may be a good thing >>>>>>>because a "new generation of safe power plants" may just sell. >>>>>> >>>>>>The only person who is willing to say those "bad" words, nuclear >>>>>>power plant, is Bush. >>>>> >>>>>That is simply false. >>>>> >>>>>At least the these have talked about it at length: >>>>> >>>>>Dennis Kucinich, >>>>>Senator Domenici, >>>>>Sen. Stabenow >>>>> >>>>>I'm sure there are many more but I'm lazy. >>>> >>>>I'll make a point to listen to these people when they talk. >>> >>>You might add Sherrod Brown, Ken Strickland, and Mary Jo Kilroy. I usually >>>TIVO through the ads on TV, but I just happened to catch each of these three >>>in a row, and they're all talking specific plans to deal with terrorism. >> >>What I've heard so far is talk about making plans. It's too late >>to talk about making plans. Everybody should have been trained >>and had a job assigned to them when the next mess happens. >> >> >>>Certainly better than "stay the course". >> >>Bush's apparently stopped saying that because people don't understand >>what he means. > > > Actually, they understood too well. When you're sailing towards a waterfall, > you don't just "stay the course." It is clear that you don't understand what he meant. So much for that argument.
From: unsettled on 30 Oct 2006 19:04 Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <ei4s7g$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <1162139745.736188.86580(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, >> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>>In article <1161875197.735056.288140(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, >>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >><snip delusional expectations that Democrats never fulfilled> >> >> >>>>The latest edict is forcing everybody to have >>>>medical insurance; if you don't the rumor is that income >>>>tax penalties will be imposed. >>> >>>The state pays for hospitals etc for those who can't pay. They don't >>>want those who can't pay dieing in the streets so they have to fund >>>their medical needs. There are some people who can afford to pay for >>>their own health care who choose to spunge off the system. To >>>discourage this, they are making those who can affort to have >>>insurance, but refuse to get it, pay a little extra towards the care of >>>those who can't afford it. It is a completely rational thing to do if >>>you have the state paying for those who can't. >>> >>>If you don't do this you must either cut off the medical care to the >>>poor or spread the cost of it evenly between the responsible and >>>irresponsible. Neither of these options is better than the one taken. >> >>Massachusetts implemented this with car insurance. It is a mess >>and people are trying to get rid of it. The fact that the Democrats >>have implemented a similar structure for medical insurance (this >>is NOT medical care) bodes ill for all, especially those who >>cannot pay. The new thing that these idiots have implemented is >>tying the payments to income taxes. They did this with sales >>tax and nobody, absolutely nobody, has complained. Think about >>a sales tax which is tied to your income level. I suspect, since >>nobody bitched, these Democrats have done the same thing with >>medical insurance. >> > > > Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and Japan. > They cover everybody and spend less. How long a wait is there for a hip replacement? How long here in the US? Canadians regularly come to the US and pay for surgery 100% out of pocket because the waiting period is too long. Perhaps not in huge numbers, but enough to be noticeable.
From: unsettled on 30 Oct 2006 19:14 Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <ei224n$8ss_004(a)s765.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: snip >>>What excuse is there for 1/20th of the world's population using 1/4 of the >>>world's energy production ? >>You forgot to include the last datum; the goods and services produced. > Our GDP is about the same as Europe's, which uses a lot less energy. There's much more that these few items to consider. What is our population density. What is the geographic size (distribution systems matter.) What are the weather patterns? Much of continental Europe has milder weather. Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe and other places in the world to ours. People who question our consumption levels by comparison to the rest of the world really need to experience the living conditions in those other places.
From: John Fields on 30 Oct 2006 19:43 On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:04:32 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Lloyd Parker wrote: > >> In article <ei4s7g$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>In article <1162139745.736188.86580(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, >>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>>In article <1161875197.735056.288140(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>><snip delusional expectations that Democrats never fulfilled> >>> >>> >>>>>The latest edict is forcing everybody to have >>>>>medical insurance; if you don't the rumor is that income >>>>>tax penalties will be imposed. >>>> >>>>The state pays for hospitals etc for those who can't pay. They don't >>>>want those who can't pay dieing in the streets so they have to fund >>>>their medical needs. There are some people who can afford to pay for >>>>their own health care who choose to spunge off the system. To >>>>discourage this, they are making those who can affort to have >>>>insurance, but refuse to get it, pay a little extra towards the care of >>>>those who can't afford it. It is a completely rational thing to do if >>>>you have the state paying for those who can't. >>>> >>>>If you don't do this you must either cut off the medical care to the >>>>poor or spread the cost of it evenly between the responsible and >>>>irresponsible. Neither of these options is better than the one taken. >>> >>>Massachusetts implemented this with car insurance. It is a mess >>>and people are trying to get rid of it. The fact that the Democrats >>>have implemented a similar structure for medical insurance (this >>>is NOT medical care) bodes ill for all, especially those who >>>cannot pay. The new thing that these idiots have implemented is >>>tying the payments to income taxes. They did this with sales >>>tax and nobody, absolutely nobody, has complained. Think about >>>a sales tax which is tied to your income level. I suspect, since >>>nobody bitched, these Democrats have done the same thing with >>>medical insurance. >>> >> >> >> Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and Japan. >> They cover everybody and spend less. --- And often cover a body with dirt because of the scrimping? --- >How long a wait is there for a hip replacement? > >How long here in the US? > >Canadians regularly come to the US and pay for surgery >100% out of pocket because the waiting period is too >long. Perhaps not in huge numbers, but enough to be >noticeable. --- Canadians don't come to the US to get hip replacements, they come here to get hip in the first place. ;) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Jamie on 30 Oct 2006 22:00
Eeyore wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>><lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>Muslims *love* trade. >>>>>> >>>>>>Barter trade. Not capitalism trade. >>>>> >>>>>Uh....what's the difference? Oh yeah, I forgot, we don't have a World >>>>>Barter Center. >>>> >>>>No common money. Bartering is face-to-face exchange of goods. >>> >>>So you're now suggesting that Muslims really don't engage in trade involving >>>currency ? >>> >>>The facts say otherwise. >> >>They use Western civilization's infrastructure at the moment. >>When they are successful in destroying it, what is going to >>replace the reserve boards and bankers? > > > What have the reserve boards got to do with it ? > > And just since you'd apparently forgotten 'they' aren't interested in destroying > infrastructure. > > You really are quite mad and should probably seek medical advice regarding your > paranoia. > > Graham > There you go again, passing out advice! I don't think you're in any position, to pass out advice. Get the idea yet? You're continuous offerings of medical help, leads me to believe that, you're sitting in some group home with nothing better to do than, post here, as a form of therapy in which case, I guess you would be considered an expert? So maybe my original assessment was incorrect? who am I to argue. :) -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |