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From: lucasea on 2 Nov 2006 09:57 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:3c732$4549ec30$4fe7336$23388(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>I am not talking about oil becoming uncompetitive. I am talking >>>about oil suddenly becoming unavailable. That should be a >>>scenario considered by all heads of state, not just the US. >> >> >> It's not going to happen short of nuclear war. > > You're obviously not old enough to personally > remember the fuel crisis of the early 1970's. First you say you're not talking about an embargo, then as evidence that it will happen, you point to an embargo. At least you could get your story straight.... Eric Lucas
From: MooseFET on 2 Nov 2006 10:13 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <1162304707.589590.317600(a)e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, > "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: > > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >[....] > >> >Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and > Japan. > >> >They cover everybody and spend less. > >> > >> And deliver less service over a longer period of time. This > >> is not the way medicine works to be effective. > > > >SInce on the average Canadians live longer than Americans (79 vs 77), > >we can assume that health care is getting delivered quite well up > >there. > > > >> Mess prevention > >> is a key element in treating disease. > >Remember you said this I'll call it "A" > > > > > >> The only timely treatment > >> these systems are good at is treating people who are well. > > > >They seem to be doing better than the US with a lot less money for > >health care. > > Could it be the drug costs that make this difference? That is likely to be part of it. They negotiate prices with drug companies. In the US medicare part-D outlaws this. The HMOs in the US can switch people over to generic drugs to lower cost. In Canada they also have no profit taken off the top of th health care dollar and standarized forms and documents. Here, each insurer has its own rules and paper work. This drive up cost. > > > > > > >> That's not what medical insurance is supposed to do. Medical > >> insurance used to supply coverage for extraordinary circumstances. > >> Now it does the opposite. > > > >Insurance is a business. Remember your statement "A" above. You were > >right and the insurance companies agree. It is far better to pay for > >some early visits to the doctors and some drugs than to wait for the > >problem to get worse. The insurance companies act the way they do > >because it is in their best interest to do so. If government provides > >the insurance, they sould model it after what is proven to work so they > >too should pay for the doctor visits. This is why it makes sense to > >cover normal doctor visits of the poor. > >
From: MooseFET on 2 Nov 2006 10:18 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: [....] > >A majority want the US out now. Heck, a majority think it's OK to attack US > >troops. > > Isn't a lot of that a tactic used to influence US elections from > outsiders? It depends a great deal on what you call "a lot". Since many of the people involved have no clue about US politics and no time to worry about it, it isn't likely to be a majority. The violence is largely iraqi on iraqi and for local reasons.
From: MooseFET on 2 Nov 2006 10:20 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: [....] > >Actually, yes, GDP includes things that are exported. > > One doesn't export intellectual property. It's not a thing. What a curious comment. Care to expand on it? > > /BAH
From: unsettled on 2 Nov 2006 10:34
lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:11089$45495c2e$4fe7052$20335(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <4546F871.E7AD0EB5(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe >>>>>>>and other places in the world to ours. >>>>>> >>>>>>What !!!! >>>>>> >>>>>>Are you being funny ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>No, he's not. There are a lot of Europeans who come to the US >>>>>to shop. >>>> >>>>There have been many flights bringing Europeans to shop at >>>>the Mall of America in Minnesota. >>> >>> >>>Cite ? >> >>Stuff it, fool. I've been there and talked with some of >>the people. I've also shopped at Gurnee Mills which is >>a one story affair with a mile long zig-zag mall under >>roof. I first ran into them there, later at Mall of >>America. >> >>Mall of America is so large, for your information, that >>there's an amusement park in the center, including a >>roller coaster. It set itself up to be an international >>destination. You don't suppose that a setup like that >>could be supported solely by sales to the Twin Cities >>and Minnesota folks within an easy drive, do you? > > > And yet despite all that, you still only have a handful of anecdotes from a > few travellers who have done it. Useless. If you're going to claim "there > have been many flights...", you better supply data on it, otherwise you're > being hoodwinked by the very same thing you chastise other people > for--seeing only the evidence they want to see. Bwahahahaha. Trying to create a hard science where there is none? |