From: MooseFET on 2 Nov 2006 10:49 Eeyore wrote: > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > > > >Actually, yes, GDP includes things that are exported. > > > > One doesn't export intellectual property. It's not a thing. > > Of course IP gets exported ( and imported ). You[1] could go to jail for "exporting a weapon" if you export some IP. I could actually and so can others. It depends on what IP you happen to have.
From: MooseFET on 2 Nov 2006 10:56 unsettled wrote: > MooseFET wrote: [....] > >>If you look you can find many such discrepancies. Also > >>US health insurance pays for Chiropractics, > > > Not all US plans pay for it and see: > > http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleId=1098 > > In this case, you get what you pay for. No, you get far less than you pay for. The whole point is that the US health care system is so inefficient that it makes the *post office* look good. The US spends an extra 60% to get nothing in return for it. This is not "get what you pay for at all". > In National Health, > you don't In National Health, you still don't get what you paid for but you get a much larger fraction of what you paid for. It isn't a good system it is just better than the others.
From: unsettled on 2 Nov 2006 10:58 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >> >>>And we're going to ram that tolerance down their throats? You whine about >>>Muslims taking over the rest of the world and ramming their ideas down our >>>throats. How do you think they feel about us taking over their country and >>>ramming our ideals down their throats. Get a clue. >> >>Only the stupid hate it. > > > Only *stupid ppl* hate having American values stuffed down their throats ? > > I guess that makes me stupid then ! When the foo shits, wear it.
From: MooseFET on 2 Nov 2006 10:59 unsettled wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > >>I am not talking about oil becoming uncompetitive. I am talking > >>about oil suddenly becoming unavailable. That should be a > >>scenario considered by all heads of state, not just the US. > > > > > > It's not going to happen short of nuclear war. > > You're obviously not old enough to personally > remember the fuel crisis of the early 1970's. I am old enough. There was a shortage of cheap oil but no shortage of oil. The US had price controls on the oil. This had distorted the market. Other countries saw mostly an increase in oil prices. The US saw shortages.
From: Eeyore on 2 Nov 2006 11:04
MooseFET wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: > > > > > > >They seem to be doing better than the US with a lot less money for > > > >health care. > > > > > > Could it be the drug costs that make this difference? > > > > Why do so may US medical practicioners prescibe expensive drugs when cheaper > > generics are just as good for mnay things ? > > Imagine that a drug company comes up with a new drug called > "Nopainatall". They send their field people out to talk to doctors an > sell them on the advantages of Nopainatall. They have studies and > graphs and all sorts of useful literature that calls the drug only by > its brand name not the chemical name. This is where doctors get a lot > of their information today. And of course some of these new drugs are just replacements for old one ( where a patent has expired ) so a to get a new patent on the new ones and keep the prices high. > After a rah-rah peptalk, the doctor is all fired up about the > advantages of the "new drug" > http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/2005/Cheerleader-Drug-Sales28nov05.htm > > > It artificially inflates costs. That's not allowed in the NHS. > > My insurance company provides the doctors with a list of generics that > they suggest be substituted. My doctor (at least) puts words to the > effect of "or generic" into the computer when setting up a new drug for > me. As a result I have a lower co-pay on my drugs. Very sensible. Over here NICE specifies recommended treatments on the NHS. http://www.nice.org.uk/ Graham |