From: Joerg on
Joel Koltner wrote:
> "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
> news:hforn5todgh8shm5elno5spnc0j3edk3n1(a)4ax.com...
>> Amazing. Where did you go to school?
>
> University of Wisconsin-Madison.
>
> In the early '90s there was still more variety of computers as well --
> PCs were clearly the most popular with Macs second, but there were also
> a sizeable number of people with Atari STs, Apple IIGSes, Amigas and
> even some NeXTstations for the real hard-core computer guys; there were
> user groups for most that met somewhere reasonably close to campus.
> (The Amiga group that I occasionally visited met in the "union south,"
> which was immediately adjacent to all the engineering buildings.)
>
>> We had a few rooms of 029s (perhaps sixty). They were clean and very
>> bright, if littered with cards and chad. I only took one CS course
>> (well, I started a PDP-8 assembly course but got sick so dropped it).
>
> Wow... :-)
>
> When I returned for my master's at Oregon State here, I was a bit sad to
> see that within engineering HP calculators had gone from >90% to <33%!
>

And solder irons had probably gone to even less that 33% :-(

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From: Tim Williams on
"Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> -- today I'd wager >99% of engineering students have PCs, almost all of
> those are laptops (all active-matrix LCDs now), and nearly all campuses
> have ubiquitous WFi.

In fact, this school has a "technology program" where you are required to
lease a laptop (whether you need one or not).

Tim

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From: Joel Koltner on
"Tim Williams" <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote in message
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> In fact, this school has a "technology program" where you are required to
> lease a laptop (whether you need one or not).

That sounds like a bit of a scam!

I lived in the dormitories for 3 years as an undergraduate, and during the
last year they decided that they were going to equip all the rooms with
mini-fridges whether you liked it or not... and of course there was a new,
separate fee for this. Most annoying to those who had already purchased their
own fridge... or decided to do without.

Seems like they should have phased them in over four years and just jacked up
the rent a bit rather than making it a separate line item, if they really
wanted to do it.

(I have often felt that apartments would be better if there were more standard
appliances such as a microwave, dishwasher, and washer and dryer [when there's
already plumbing for such] than making everyone haul their own from rental to
rental...)

How many years do you have left of school, Tim?

---Joel

From: Tim Williams on
"Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> How many years do you have left of school, Tim?

Oh, I should be out by next winter, if all goes well.

Why, would you like a copy of my resume? ;-)

Tim

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From: Joerg on
Joel Koltner wrote:
> "Tim Williams" <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote in message
> news:hlkv5s$d2k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> In fact, this school has a "technology program" where you are required
>> to lease a laptop (whether you need one or not).
>
> That sounds like a bit of a scam!
>
> I lived in the dormitories for 3 years as an undergraduate, and during
> the last year they decided that they were going to equip all the rooms
> with mini-fridges whether you liked it or not... and of course there was
> a new, separate fee for this. Most annoying to those who had already
> purchased their own fridge... or decided to do without.
>
> Seems like they should have phased them in over four years and just
> jacked up the rent a bit rather than making it a separate line item, if
> they really wanted to do it.
>
> (I have often felt that apartments would be better if there were more
> standard appliances such as a microwave, dishwasher, and washer and
> dryer [when there's already plumbing for such] than making everyone haul
> their own from rental to rental...)
>

Hey, you guys are spoiled. I never lived on campus, didn't want to. I
had no washer, no dryer, no microwave, no diswasher. All I had was a
two-burner portable electric "range". But you could not turn both on
when the TV was running or the fuse would blow and that was three
flights of stairs down. Dishes were done by hand, same for the laundry.
Use of the clothesline during the week was scheduled out among the parties.

[...]

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