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From: krw on 19 Feb 2010 20:01 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:51:09 -0800, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >news:7u8260Fve5U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Dishes were done by hand, same for the laundry. > >They didn't have laundromats over there!? My mother didn't have a washer & >dryer until I was about 6, so I do have many early memories of accompanying >her off to the laundromat... my brother and I would spend out time looking for >loose change people had dropped, and (at least as a kid) it was truly amazing >just how much there was to find. My mother didn't have a dryer until after I moved out. She decided that sixty was too old to be hanging clothes to dry. >Oh, and it was next door to a donut shop... :-) > >I can't even imagine having to do laundry by hand these days! Especially >when, after getting married, the amount of laundry done per week has increased >by, um, about 5x... :-) By hand? You mean by beating it on a rock?
From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on 19 Feb 2010 20:09 Phil Hobbs wrote: > On 2/19/2010 6:42 PM, Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > >> >> http://chemistry-chemists.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=78 >> >> Things like that used to be commonplace. Don't know how well it would >> work at 120V. At 220V, water immediately starts boiling between the >> blades, so the bubbles of vapor naturally limit the current. > > Sure, electric vapourizers used to work that way. > Yes, and I even have one that works like that, however you have to add some baking soda into water. VLV
From: krw on 19 Feb 2010 20:10 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Joel Koltner wrote: >> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >> news:x_GdnbNeQpvYmuLWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the >>> amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called >>> "double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil >>> it until it will be a uniform kasha. >> >> Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How >> long ago was that? >> >>> Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades? >> >> No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done? >> >> When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required >> to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various >> plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker." >> These days many schools have switched some or all of their own >> cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza >> Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition >> and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place, >> food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no >> remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready >> walking distance of campus. :-) ) >> > >But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely >frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much >cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly >gourmet quality. Certainly can. A few weeks ago, one of the news reports here was that Auburn was going to force every student to buy a meal plan, whether they wanted it or not. Even those living off-campus. >IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets >exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types. Apparently they're going to make that impossible, too. UVM required Freshmen to live on-campus, even if they couldn't afford dorms and could live at home. Alabama universities (Both 'bama and Auburn) are also going that way, except not just for Freshmen. Thirty-five years ago UIUC required Freshmen to live on campus, unless they could live at home.
From: Joerg on 19 Feb 2010 20:22 krw wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:49:38 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message >>> news:hforn5todgh8shm5elno5spnc0j3edk3n1(a)4ax.com... >>>> Amazing. Where did you go to school? >>> University of Wisconsin-Madison. >>> >>> In the early '90s there was still more variety of computers as well -- >>> PCs were clearly the most popular with Macs second, but there were also >>> a sizeable number of people with Atari STs, Apple IIGSes, Amigas and >>> even some NeXTstations for the real hard-core computer guys; there were >>> user groups for most that met somewhere reasonably close to campus. >>> (The Amiga group that I occasionally visited met in the "union south," >>> which was immediately adjacent to all the engineering buildings.) >>> >>>> We had a few rooms of 029s (perhaps sixty). They were clean and very >>>> bright, if littered with cards and chad. I only took one CS course >>>> (well, I started a PDP-8 assembly course but got sick so dropped it). >>> Wow... :-) >>> >>> When I returned for my master's at Oregon State here, I was a bit sad to >>> see that within engineering HP calculators had gone from >90% to <33%! >>> >> And solder irons had probably gone to even less that 33% :-( > > I doubt 10% of my class owned a soldering iron. I doubt 10% know > which end to pick up today. > Not sure when you graduated but in my days (early 80's) nearly everyone would solder until you had clouds in the room. Most of them were assembling Apple II clones and such. One of my side jobs at the university was to come up with low cost tools they can build. Poor man's spectrum analyzer, function generators and so on. The plans were free and if there were unavoidable difficult-to-buy parts we'd organize pool orders and stuff. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 19 Feb 2010 20:28
krw wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:x_GdnbNeQpvYmuLWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the >>>> amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called >>>> "double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil >>>> it until it will be a uniform kasha. >>> Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How >>> long ago was that? >>> >>>> Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades? >>> No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done? >>> >>> When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required >>> to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various >>> plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker." >>> These days many schools have switched some or all of their own >>> cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza >>> Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition >>> and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place, >>> food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no >>> remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready >>> walking distance of campus. :-) ) >>> >> But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely >> frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much >> cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly >> gourmet quality. > > Certainly can. A few weeks ago, one of the news reports here was that > Auburn was going to force every student to buy a meal plan, whether > they wanted it or not. Even those living off-campus. > >> IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets >> exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types. > > Apparently they're going to make that impossible, too. UVM required > Freshmen to live on-campus, even if they couldn't afford dorms and > could live at home. Alabama universities (Both 'bama and Auburn) are > also going that way, except not just for Freshmen. > > Thirty-five years ago UIUC required Freshmen to live on campus, unless > they could live at home. Very sad. And nobody does anything against that? I find it almost discriminatory. I am not a fan of legal action but if those universities receive even one dime in public funding I hope someone manages to get a class together and challenge them. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |