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From: JosephKK on 19 Feb 2010 23:46 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:10:51 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >wrote: > >>Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:x_GdnbNeQpvYmuLWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the >>>> amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called >>>> "double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil >>>> it until it will be a uniform kasha. >>> >>> Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How >>> long ago was that? >>> >>>> Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades? >>> >>> No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done? >>> >>> When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required >>> to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various >>> plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker." >>> These days many schools have switched some or all of their own >>> cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza >>> Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition >>> and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place, >>> food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no >>> remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready >>> walking distance of campus. :-) ) >>> >> >>But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely >>frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much >>cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly >>gourmet quality. > >Certainly can. A few weeks ago, one of the news reports here was that >Auburn was going to force every student to buy a meal plan, whether >they wanted it or not. Even those living off-campus. > >>IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets >>exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types. > >Apparently they're going to make that impossible, too. UVM required >Freshmen to live on-campus, even if they couldn't afford dorms and >could live at home. Alabama universities (Both 'bama and Auburn) are >also going that way, except not just for Freshmen. > >Thirty-five years ago UIUC required Freshmen to live on campus, unless >they could live at home. It is mostly a money chase. Got to nearly balance the budget.
From: JosephKK on 19 Feb 2010 23:52 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:40:24 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:28:20 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >wrote: > >>krw wrote: >>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Joel Koltner wrote: >>>>> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:x_GdnbNeQpvYmuLWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>>> So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the >>>>>> amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called >>>>>> "double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil >>>>>> it until it will be a uniform kasha. >>>>> Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How >>>>> long ago was that? >>>>> >>>>>> Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades? >>>>> No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done? >>>>> >>>>> When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required >>>>> to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various >>>>> plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker." >>>>> These days many schools have switched some or all of their own >>>>> cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza >>>>> Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition >>>>> and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place, >>>>> food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no >>>>> remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready >>>>> walking distance of campus. :-) ) >>>>> >>>> But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely >>>> frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much >>>> cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly >>>> gourmet quality. >>> >>> Certainly can. A few weeks ago, one of the news reports here was that >>> Auburn was going to force every student to buy a meal plan, whether >>> they wanted it or not. Even those living off-campus. >>> >>>> IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets >>>> exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types. >>> >>> Apparently they're going to make that impossible, too. UVM required >>> Freshmen to live on-campus, even if they couldn't afford dorms and >>> could live at home. Alabama universities (Both 'bama and Auburn) are >>> also going that way, except not just for Freshmen. >>> >>> Thirty-five years ago UIUC required Freshmen to live on campus, unless >>> they could live at home. >> >> >>Very sad. And nobody does anything against that? I find it almost >>discriminatory. I am not a fan of legal action but if those universities >>receive even one dime in public funding I hope someone manages to get a >>class together and challenge them. > >Auburn and UofAlabama *are* the Alabama state universities (as are UVM >in Vermont and UIUC in Illinois). How is it discriminatory if >everyone is treated the same? Indeed that may be one of the reasons >(excuses) behind the stupidity. It's only "fair" if everyone suffers >together. Well if they want to charge me like i live on campus, they better think well about properly providing a cot and a roof to go with the three hots. Not all students can so easily beat the cost of the meal plan, but those that can, and need to, to stay in school are clearly being discriminated against.
From: JosephKK on 19 Feb 2010 23:54 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:30:17 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:12:20 -0800, "Joel Koltner" ><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>"Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>news:4B7F21F6.2000301(a)nowhere.com... >>> Things like that used to be commonplace. Don't know how well it would work >>> at 120V. At 220V, water immediately starts boiling between the blades, so >>> the bubbles of vapor naturally limit the current. >> >>Fascinating... cheaper than any store-bought unit, I suppose! > >I had one for hot dogs... probably be illegal now ;-) > > ...Jim Thompson In Californicatia it is illegal to demonstrate that kind of apparatus.
From: JosephKK on 19 Feb 2010 23:58 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:01:12 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:51:09 -0800, "Joel Koltner" ><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>news:7u8260Fve5U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> Dishes were done by hand, same for the laundry. >> >>They didn't have laundromats over there!? My mother didn't have a washer & >>dryer until I was about 6, so I do have many early memories of accompanying >>her off to the laundromat... my brother and I would spend out time looking for >>loose change people had dropped, and (at least as a kid) it was truly amazing >>just how much there was to find. > >My mother didn't have a dryer until after I moved out. She decided >that sixty was too old to be hanging clothes to dry. > >>Oh, and it was next door to a donut shop... :-) >> >>I can't even imagine having to do laundry by hand these days! Especially >>when, after getting married, the amount of laundry done per week has increased >>by, um, about 5x... :-) > >By hand? You mean by beating it on a rock? I'll bet he was civilized and had a metal tub and a washboard. They doubled as musical instruments on winter Saturday afternoons.
From: krw on 20 Feb 2010 00:11
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:52:06 -0800, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:40:24 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:28:20 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>wrote: >> >>>krw wrote: >>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Joel Koltner wrote: >>>>>> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:x_GdnbNeQpvYmuLWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>>>>> So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the >>>>>>> amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called >>>>>>> "double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil >>>>>>> it until it will be a uniform kasha. >>>>>> Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How >>>>>> long ago was that? >>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades? >>>>>> No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done? >>>>>> >>>>>> When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required >>>>>> to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various >>>>>> plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker." >>>>>> These days many schools have switched some or all of their own >>>>>> cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza >>>>>> Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition >>>>>> and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place, >>>>>> food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no >>>>>> remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready >>>>>> walking distance of campus. :-) ) >>>>>> >>>>> But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely >>>>> frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much >>>>> cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly >>>>> gourmet quality. >>>> >>>> Certainly can. A few weeks ago, one of the news reports here was that >>>> Auburn was going to force every student to buy a meal plan, whether >>>> they wanted it or not. Even those living off-campus. >>>> >>>>> IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets >>>>> exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types. >>>> >>>> Apparently they're going to make that impossible, too. UVM required >>>> Freshmen to live on-campus, even if they couldn't afford dorms and >>>> could live at home. Alabama universities (Both 'bama and Auburn) are >>>> also going that way, except not just for Freshmen. >>>> >>>> Thirty-five years ago UIUC required Freshmen to live on campus, unless >>>> they could live at home. >>> >>> >>>Very sad. And nobody does anything against that? I find it almost >>>discriminatory. I am not a fan of legal action but if those universities >>>receive even one dime in public funding I hope someone manages to get a >>>class together and challenge them. >> >>Auburn and UofAlabama *are* the Alabama state universities (as are UVM >>in Vermont and UIUC in Illinois). How is it discriminatory if >>everyone is treated the same? Indeed that may be one of the reasons >>(excuses) behind the stupidity. It's only "fair" if everyone suffers >>together. > >Well if they want to charge me like i live on campus, they better think well >about properly providing a cot and a roof to go with the three hots. Not >all students can so easily beat the cost of the meal plan, but those that >can, and need to, to stay in school are clearly being discriminated against. The point is that you *would* live on campus. Of course you can beat their prices, but that's not in their interest. The middle class are far from being a protected class. Discrimination is perfectly legal. |