From: spudnik on
I see; your ideal is that the lightwaves,
actually are a "different form of matter,"
called aether, that somehow acts like a lightwave
taht is propogating through "vacuum"
(as opposed to Newton's silly photons).

> "The equation E = mc2 indicates that energy always exhibits mass in
> whatever form the energy takes.[3]  It does not imply that mass may be
> “converted” to energy, for modern theory holds that neither mass nor
> energy may be destroyed, but only moved from one location to another.
> In physics, mass must be differentiated from matter. In cases where
> matter particles are created or destroyed, the precursors and products
> retain both the original mass and energy, which is unchanged. Mass–
> energy equivalence also means that mass conservation becomes a
> restatement of the law of energy conservation, which is the first law
> of thermodynamics."
>
> The products retain the original mass because the product is aether.

From: mpc755 on
On Apr 25, 5:30 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> I see; your ideal is that the lightwaves,
> actually are a "different form of matter,"
> called aether, that somehow acts like a lightwave
> taht is propogating through "vacuum"
> (as opposed to Newton's silly photons).
>

Space is not a void. Space is not an 'empty' vacuum.

Light waves propagate through the aether.

> > "The equation E = mc2 indicates that energy always exhibits mass in
> > whatever form the energy takes.[3]  It does not imply that mass may be
> > “converted” to energy, for modern theory holds that neither mass nor
> > energy may be destroyed, but only moved from one location to another.
> > In physics, mass must be differentiated from matter. In cases where
> > matter particles are created or destroyed, the precursors and products
> > retain both the original mass and energy, which is unchanged. Mass–
> > energy equivalence also means that mass conservation becomes a
> > restatement of the law of energy conservation, which is the first law
> > of thermodynamics."
>
> > The products retain the original mass because the product is aether.
>
>

From: spudnik on
yeah, but you're are trying to aver that
"space is not a void *because* of aether,"
whereas a vacuum has never been demonstrated,
since Paacal (thought that he) discovered it.

that is to say,
there is only *relative* vacuum,
through which waves of light may propogate,
just as they do through the (relative vacuum of) air.

> Space is not a void. Space is not an 'empty' vacuum.
> Light waves propagate through the aether.

thus:
second-powering has nothing per se to do
with the regular tetragon; in "E=mcc,"
it has more to do with an expanding spherical wavefront
(saith Bucky .-)... not a circle, though.

> An idiot is not half way to being an idiot-savant.
From: BURT on
On Apr 25, 2:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 5:30 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I see; your ideal is that the lightwaves,
> > actually are a "different form of matter,"
> > called aether, that somehow acts like a lightwave
> > taht is propogating through "vacuum"
> > (as opposed to Newton's silly photons).
>
> Space is not a void. Space is not an 'empty' vacuum.
>
> Light waves propagate through the aether.
>
>
>
> > > "The equation E = mc2 indicates that energy always exhibits mass in
> > > whatever form the energy takes.[3]  It does not imply that mass may be
> > > “converted” to energy, for modern theory holds that neither mass nor
> > > energy may be destroyed, but only moved from one location to another.
> > > In physics, mass must be differentiated from matter. In cases where
> > > matter particles are created or destroyed, the precursors and products
> > > retain both the original mass and energy, which is unchanged. Mass–
> > > energy equivalence also means that mass conservation becomes a
> > > restatement of the law of energy conservation, which is the first law
> > > of thermodynamics."
>
> > > The products retain the original mass because the product is aether.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Dimensions with round geometry have a round aether. This is the
immaterial round curve of gravity geometry; round space and its
aether.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
On Apr 25, 6:00 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> yeah, but you're are trying to aver that
> "space is not a void *because* of aether,"
> whereas a vacuum has never been demonstrated,
> since Paacal (thought that he) discovered it.
>
> that is to say,
> there is only *relative* vacuum,
> through which waves of light may propogate,
> just as they do through the (relative vacuum of) air.
>
> > Space is not a void. Space is not an 'empty' vacuum.
> > Light waves propagate through the aether.
>
> thus:
> second-powering has nothing per se to do
> with the regular tetragon; in "E=mcc,"
> it has more to do with an expanding spherical wavefront
> (saith Bucky .-)...  not a circle, though.
>

Mass does not convert to energy. Matter transitions to aether. Matter
expands in three dimensional space as it transitions to aether. Matter
increases in volume as it transitions to aether. The physical effect
this transition has on the neighboring aether and matter is energy.

There is no 'missing mass'. The mass which no longer exists as part of
the matter has converted to aether.

When you watch an atomic bomb explode you are watching the physical
effect matter expanding in volume as it transitions to aether has on
the neighboring matter and aether:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16heorrfsgY

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A.
EINSTEIN'
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
and matter is energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence

"The equation E = mc2 indicates that energy always exhibits mass in
whatever form the energy takes.[3] It does not imply that mass may be
“converted” to energy, for modern theory holds that neither mass nor
energy may be destroyed, but only moved from one location to another.
In physics, mass must be differentiated from matter. In cases where
matter particles are created or destroyed, the precursors and products
retain both the original mass and energy, which is unchanged. Mass–
energy equivalence also means that mass conservation becomes a
restatement of the law of energy conservation, which is the first law
of thermodynamics."

The products retain the original mass because the product is aether.

In E=mc^2, mass is conserved.

Light waves propagate through the aether.