Mass-Energy Equivalence [Math]

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From: spudnik on 28 Apr 2010 15:37

1. The circle that measures ecliptic latitude, that is, the number of
degrees above or below the ecliptic of the Moon or the planets. It is
properly calibrated when it reads "zero" every day at noon, when
sighting the Sun.

2. A half-circle and plumb-bob attached to the sighting arm, which
gives the elevation of a star or planet above the horizon.

3. Equatorial plane, points to the celestial equator, by tilting it
from the horizontal by an angle equal to the co-latitude. The
14"circle on it is divided up into hours, for sidereal time or right
ascension (when necessary, these readings can easily be converted into
degrees, since 1 hour = 15 degrees).

4. Base, in the plane of the observer's horizon, oriented so that the
axis of symmetry is on the north-south meridian.

5. Ecliptic plane, also known as the 23.5-degree wedge, set parallel
to the plane of the ecliptic. The 12"circle on this plane is divided
up into 24 hours, giving ecliptic longitude, where the position of the
Sun is the sidereal time at noon for that day.

6. Sighting arm, with sights for "shooting"a planet, star, the Moon,
or the Sun.

Source: Adapted from Sentiel Rommel, "Maui's Tanawa: A Torquetum of
232 B.C.,"
21st Century, Spring 1999, p. 75.

> Aether is uncompressed matter and matter is compressed aether, so if
> you want to say light propagates through uncompressed matter, that
> would be correct.

> > what ever it says, Shapiro's last book is just a polemic;
> > his real "proof" is _1599_;
> > the fans of de Vere are hopelessly stuck-up --
> > especially if they went to Harry Potter PS#1.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://entertainment.timesonline.co....

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.com

From: BURT on 28 Apr 2010 15:43

On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > Light propagates with respect to the aether.
>
> > By what energy?
>
> Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The
> displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light
> wave.

Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese?
What frequency is the aether?

Mitch Raemsch

From: mpc755 on 28 Apr 2010 20:18

On Apr 28, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > Light propagates with respect to the aether.
>
> > > By what energy?
>
> > Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The
> > displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light
> > wave.
>
> Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese?
> What frequency is the aether?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

'Aether and matter; a development of the dynamical relations of the
aether to material systems on the basis of the atomic constitution of
matter including a discussion of the influence of the earth's motion
on optical phenomena, being an Adams prize essay in the University of
Cambridge'
http://www.archive.org/stream/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft_djvu.txt

"The theory, at the stage at which it was left by Maxwell, being a
theory of complete electric circuits, the total current was a
continuous streaming flow ; there proved to be no necessity, in the
case of systems at rest, for keeping distinct the current of
conduction, the current arising from changing electric polarization in
a dielectric substance, and the displacement current belonging to free
aether apart from matter altogether: the only hypothesis he required
was that there is an aethereal current of such amount as to complete
into a single circuital stream all the types of true electric flux
which are associated with matter. These distinctions however become
essential as soon as the theory is to take cognizance of the motion of
the matter, especially in the domain of radiation where a mere
equilibrium theory, contemplating the convection unaltered of its
electric field along with the matter, is not a valid approximation.
Then convection, relative to the aether, of electric charge and of
dielectric polarization, contributes to the total current, as well as
the change of aethereal elastic displacement and of material
polarization. The problem thus presents itself in the form of two
media, the aether and the matter, each with its own motion, but both
occupying the same space ; and some idea has to be formed of the
interconnexions by which they influence each other."

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
by
Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".

The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
aether's state of displacement.

From: BURT on 28 Apr 2010 22:22

On Apr 28, 5:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > Light propagates with respect to the aether.
>
> > > > By what energy?
>
> > > Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The
> > > displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light
> > > wave.
>
> > Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese?
> > What frequency is the aether?
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> 'Aether and matter; a development of the dynamical relations of the
> aether to material systems on the basis of the atomic constitution of
> matter including a discussion of the influence of the earth's motion
> on optical phenomena, being an Adams prize essay in the University of
> Cambridge'http://www.archive.org/stream/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft/aethermatter...
>
> "The theory, at the stage at which it was left by Maxwell, being a
> theory of complete electric circuits, the total current was a
> continuous streaming flow ; there proved to be no necessity, in the
> case of systems at rest, for keeping distinct the current of
> conduction, the current arising from changing electric polarization in
> a dielectric substance, and the displacement current belonging to free
> aether apart from matter altogether: the only hypothesis he required
> was that there is an aethereal current of such amount as to complete
> into a single circuital stream all the types of true electric flux
> which are associated with matter. These distinctions however become
> essential as soon as the theory is to take cognizance of the motion of
> the matter, especially in the domain of radiation where a mere
> equilibrium theory, contemplating the convection unaltered of its
> electric field along with the matter, is not a valid approximation.
> Then convection, relative to the aether, of electric charge and of
> dielectric polarization, contributes to the total current, as well as
> the change of aethereal elastic displacement and of material
> polarization. The problem thus presents itself in the form of two
> media, the aether and the matter, each with its own motion, but both
> occupying the same space ; and some idea has to be formed of the
> interconnexions by which they influence each other."
>
> 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
> by
> Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> aether's state of displacement.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Energy in mass comes from the square of the universal speed limit.

Mitch Raemsch

From: mpc755 on 28 Apr 2010 22:28

On Apr 28, 10:22 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 5:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 28, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 27, 2:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 27, 5:55 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 27, 2:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Apr 27, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > How does aether displacement effect the energy of light?
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > Light propagates with respect to the aether.
>
> > > > > By what energy?
>
> > > > Light propagates as a displacement wave in the aether. The
> > > > displacement of the aether is the energy associated with the light
> > > > wave.
>
> > > Is that right? Why do you continue to try to get away with nonsese?
> > > What frequency is the aether?
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > 'Aether and matter; a development of the dynamical relations of the
> > aether to material systems on the basis of the atomic constitution of
> > matter including a discussion of the influence of the earth's motion
> > on optical phenomena, being an Adams prize essay in the University of
> > Cambridge'http://www.archive.org/stream/aethermatterdeve00larmuoft/aethermatter...
>
> > "The theory, at the stage at which it was left by Maxwell, being a
> > theory of complete electric circuits, the total current was a
> > continuous streaming flow ; there proved to be no necessity, in the
> > case of systems at rest, for keeping distinct the current of
> > conduction, the current arising from changing electric polarization in
> > a dielectric substance, and the displacement current belonging to free
> > aether apart from matter altogether: the only hypothesis he required
> > was that there is an aethereal current of such amount as to complete
> > into a single circuital stream all the types of true electric flux
> > which are associated with matter. These distinctions however become
> > essential as soon as the theory is to take cognizance of the motion of
> > the matter, especially in the domain of radiation where a mere
> > equilibrium theory, contemplating the convection unaltered of its
> > electric field along with the matter, is not a valid approximation.
> > Then convection, relative to the aether, of electric charge and of
> > dielectric polarization, contributes to the total current, as well as
> > the change of aethereal elastic displacement and of material
> > polarization. The problem thus presents itself in the form of two
> > media, the aether and the matter, each with its own motion, but both
> > occupying the same space ; and some idea has to be formed of the
> > interconnexions by which they influence each other."
>
> > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity
> > by
> > Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > aether's state of displacement.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Energy in mass comes from the square of the universal speed limit.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Aether and matter are different states of the same material.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A.
EINSTEIN'
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
and matter is energy.

In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the state of the mass.

In terms of E=mc^2, energy is a change in the aether's state of
displacement.

In terms of E-mc^2, mass is conserved.