Mass-Energy Equivalence [Math]

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From: PD on 3 May 2010 10:30

On May 2, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 2:39 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it
> > > is its state of actuality - ie non existent.
>
> > > Thanks
> > > Bill
>
> > Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed.
> > Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect.
>
> > A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is
> > at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an
> > individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in
> > the aether.
>
> > Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity
> > as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what
> > is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every
> > nucleus which is the matter which is the object.
>
> > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > by the double solution theory
> > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > of an external field acting on the particle."
>
> > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> > located."
>
> > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
> > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
> > the wave.
>
> > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
> > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
> > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.
>
> > A C-60 molecule displaces the aether.
>
> > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
> > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
> > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
> > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
> > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> > there is no interference.
>
> > The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity.
>
> > Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate
> > displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past
> > the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the
> > plates forces the plates together.
>
> > While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the
> > exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single
> > slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and
> > removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an
> > interference pattern.
>
> > Explain how this is possible.
>
> > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether
> > displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a
> > single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave
> > in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement
> > wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> > direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the
> > slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the
> > wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > Should I post the '<crickets>' response to your non-response now, or
> > should I wait 24 hours?
>
> <crickets>
>
> No one has been able to answer the question except for the one person
> who insists the future determines the past. There is something
> incorrect with your 'understanding' of nature if you can not answer
> such a simple question. Not being able to answer the question is
> evidence you do not understand the physics of nature.

This is the "dare you to convince me" model of usenet interaction. As
in, "convince me you're right, or you're wrong." Of course, there's no
point in trying to convince a babbling psychopath or a stick of butter
or a rusty horseshoe. There are better ways to spend one's time than
to work hard to respond to things like this.

From: mpc755 on 3 May 2010 10:34

> On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote:

> > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > aether's state of displacement.

> > And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it
> > is its state of actuality - ie non existent.

> > Thanks
> > Bill

> Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed.
> Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect.

> A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is
> at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an
> individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in
> the aether.

> Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity
> as the pressure exerted by the displaced aether towards the matter,
> what is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and
> every nucleus which is the matter which is the object.

> 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> by the double solution theory
> Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

> "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> of an external field acting on the particle."

> "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> located."

> de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
> and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
> the wave.

> In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
> the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
> exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.

> A C-60 molecule displaces the aether.

> A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
> C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
> experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
> the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
> it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> there is no interference.

> The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity.

> Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate
> displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past
> the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the
> plates forces the plates together.

> While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the
> exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single
> slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and
> removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an
> interference pattern.

> Explain how this is possible.

> In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether
> displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a
> single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave
> in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement
> wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the
> slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the
> wave into chop) and there is no interference.

> Should I post the '<crickets>' response to your non-response now, or
> should I wait 24 hours?

<crickets>

No one has been able to answer the question except for one person
who insists the future determines the past. There is something
incorrect with your 'understanding' of nature if you can not answer
such a simple question. Not being able to answer the question is
evidence you do not understand the physics of nature.

From: mpc755 on 3 May 2010 10:36

On May 3, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 2:39 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > > And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it
> > > > is its state of actuality - ie non existent.
>
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Bill
>
> > > Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed.
> > > Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect.
>
> > > A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is
> > > at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an
> > > individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in
> > > the aether.
>
> > > Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity
> > > as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what
> > > is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every
> > > nucleus which is the matter which is the object.
>
> > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > > by the double solution theory
> > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf
>
> > > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > > of an external field acting on the particle."
>
> > > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> > > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> > > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> > > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> > > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> > > located."
>
> > > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
> > > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
> > > the wave.
>
> > > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
> > > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
> > > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.
>
> > > A C-60 molecule displaces the aether.
>
> > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
> > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
> > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
> > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
> > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> > > there is no interference.
>
> > > The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity.
>
> > > Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate
> > > displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past
> > > the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the
> > > plates forces the plates together.
>
> > > While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the
> > > exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single
> > > slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and
> > > removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an
> > > interference pattern.
>
> > > Explain how this is possible.
>
> > > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether
> > > displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a
> > > single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave
> > > in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement
> > > wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> > > direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the
> > > slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the
> > > wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > Should I post the '<crickets>' response to your non-response now, or
> > > should I wait 24 hours?
>
> > <crickets>
>
> > No one has been able to answer the question except for the one person
> > who insists the future determines the past. There is something
> > incorrect with your 'understanding' of nature if you can not answer
> > such a simple question. Not being able to answer the question is
> > evidence you do not understand the physics of nature.
>
> This is the "dare you to convince me" model of usenet interaction. As
> in, "convince me you're right, or you're wrong." Of course, there's no
> point in trying to convince a babbling psychopath or a stick of butter
> or a rusty horseshoe. There are better ways to spend one's time than
> to work hard to respond to things like this.

Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature. Oh
yeah, I forgot, you can't. If you can't explain it then its dogma:

- The future determining the past
- Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
- Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
- A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
a change in momentum.
- Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
different than Maxwell's displacement current
- Mass is not conserved.

The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:

- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
by the plates forces the plates together
- Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
matter.
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
analogous to Maxwell's displacement current.
- Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
Mass is conserved.

From: mpc755 on 3 May 2010 10:39

On May 2, 2:39 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it
> > is its state of actuality - ie non existent.
>
> > Thanks
> > Bill
>
> Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed.
> Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect.
>
> A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is
> at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an
> individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in
> the aether.
>
> Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity
> as the pressure exerted by the displaced aether towards the matter,
> what is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and
> every nucleus which is the matter which is the object.
>
> 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> by the double solution theory
> Louis de BROGLIE'
> http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> of an external field acting on the particle."
>
> "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> located."
>
> de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
> and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
> the wave.
>
> In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
> the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
> exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.
>
> A C-60 molecule displaces the aether.
>
> A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
> C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
> experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
> the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
> it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> there is no interference.
>
> The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity.
>
> Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate
> displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past
> the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the
> plates forces the plates together.
>
> While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the
> exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single
> slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and
> removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an
> interference pattern.
>
> Explain how this is possible.
>
> In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether
> displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a
> single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave
> in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement
> wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the
> slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the
> wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> Should I post the '<crickets>' response to your non-response now, or
> should I wait 24 hours?

<crickets>

No one has been able to answer the question except for one person
who insists the future determines the past. There is something
incorrect with your 'understanding' of nature if you can not answer
such a simple question. Not being able to answer the question is
evidence you do not understand the physics of nature.

From: mpc755 on 3 May 2010 10:42

On May 3, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 9:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 2:39 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 1, 6:43 pm, Bill Hobba <bho...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 28/04/2010 9:49 PM, mpc755 wrote:
>
> > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > > And the state of the aether as determined by out inability to detect it
> > > > is its state of actuality - ie non existent.
>
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Bill
>
> > > Aether is detected every time a double slit experiment is executed.
> > > Aether is detected in the Casimir Effect.
>
> > > A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is
> > > at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an
> > > individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in
> > > the aether.
>
> > > Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity
> > > as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what
> > > is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every
> > > nucleus which is the matter which is the object.
>
> > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > > by the double solution theory
> > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf
>
> > > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > > of an external field acting on the particle."
>
> > > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
> > > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
> > > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
> > > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
> > > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
> > > located."
>
> > > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave
> > > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of
> > > the wave.
>
> > > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment
> > > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and
> > > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits.
>
> > > A C-60 molecule displaces the aether.
>
> > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The
> > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit
> > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits
> > > the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits
> > > it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> > > there is no interference.
>
> > > The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity.
>
> > > Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate
> > > displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past
> > > the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the
> > > plates forces the plates together.
>
> > > While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the
> > > exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule is detected exiting a single
> > > slit. While a C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed and
> > > removed from the exits to the slits. The C-60 molecule creates an
> > > interference pattern.
>
> > > Explain how this is possible.
>
> > > In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether
> > > displacement wave and the C-60 molecule ALWAYS enters and exits a
> > > single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the displacement wave
> > > in the aether which enters and exits multiples slits. The displacement
> > > wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the
> > > direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detectors at the exits to the
> > > slits causes decoherence of the associated aether wave (i.e. turns the
> > > wave into chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > Should I post the '<crickets>' response to your non-response now, or
> > > should I wait 24 hours?
>
> > <crickets>
>
> > No one has been able to answer the question except for the one person
> > who insists the future determines the past. There is something
> > incorrect with your 'understanding' of nature if you can not answer
> > such a simple question. Not being able to answer the question is
> > evidence you do not understand the physics of nature.
>
> This is the "dare you to convince me" model of usenet interaction. As
> in, "convince me you're right, or you're wrong." Of course, there's no
> point in trying to convince a babbling psychopath or a stick of butter
> or a rusty horseshoe. There are better ways to spend one's time than
> to work hard to respond to things like this.

Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature. If
you can't explain it then its dogma:

- The future determining the past
- Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
- Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
- A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
a change in momentum.
- Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
different than Maxwell's displacement current
- Mass is not conserved.

The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:

- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
by the plates forces the plates together
- Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
matter.
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
analogous to Maxwell's displacement current.
- Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
In E=mc^2, Energy is matter transitioning to aether.
Mass is conserved.