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From: John Navas on 3 Aug 2010 13:23 On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:56:08 -0700, in <alangbaker-019111.09560803082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bja45(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:34:31 -0700, in >> <alangbaker-B8F5CB.09343103082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >In article >> ><7893511e-6ad1-4bcd-986b-8ac8fe6441a5(a)d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, >> > MuahMan <muahman(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Apple fucked up another product, they are getting sued again. Deal >> >> with it you Apple apologist. >> > >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the same >> >heat limitations. >> >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by Steven, >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. > >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe operating ranges. Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much more than 95 degrees F. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Alan Baker on 3 Aug 2010 13:27 In article <u0kg56dbov1j21ks4k4nttfhrnafo7lapd(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:56:08 -0700, in > <alangbaker-019111.09560803082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > >In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bja45(a)4ax.com>, > > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:34:31 -0700, in > >> <alangbaker-B8F5CB.09343103082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> > >> >In article > >> ><7893511e-6ad1-4bcd-986b-8ac8fe6441a5(a)d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > >> > MuahMan <muahman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >> Apple fucked up another product, they are getting sued again. Deal > >> >> with it you Apple apologist. > >> > > >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the same > >> >heat limitations. > >> > >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a > >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The > >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by Steven, > >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. > > > >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. > > I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe > operating ranges. Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much > more than 95 degrees F. Really? Then why don't their specs allow for it? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: nospam on 3 Aug 2010 13:42 In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bja45(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the same > >heat limitations. > > They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a > cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The > apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by Steven, > are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. nevermind portables, how about *desktops*? there is *plenty* of room inside a desktop computer for one or more fans along with large heat sinks, yet this acer desktop specifies a maximum of 95 degrees fahrenheit (35 c) and 80% relative humidity. that means that in a large part of the united states in the past few weeks, the computer could not be used at all. it was simply too hot and too humid. the fact that there is inadequate cooling in a *desktop* is a sorry commentary on acer engineering, far more so than anything apple ever did. now watch the bashers try to rationalize this one. <http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/desktop/0000/Acer/AspireT180/AspireT1 80sp2.shtml> Temperature: Operating: +5oC ~+35oC Non-operating: -10oC ~ +60oC Relative Humidity:Operating: 15% - 80% RH Non-condensing Non-Operating Storage: 10% - 90% RH, Non-condensing at 40� C�
From: nospam on 3 Aug 2010 13:46 In article <u0kg56dbov1j21ks4k4nttfhrnafo7lapd(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the same > >> >heat limitations. > >> > >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a > >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The > >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by Steven, > >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. > > > >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. > > I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe > operating ranges. if you want to talk real world issues, then the ipad works just fine outside the 95 degree f limit too. > Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much > more than 95 degrees F. and the ipad does just that.
From: -hh on 3 Aug 2010 14:41
On Aug 3, 1:27 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article <u0kg56dbov1j21ks4k4nttfhrnafo7l...(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:56:08 -0700, in > > <alangbaker-019111.09560803082...(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > > <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > >In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bj...(a)4ax.com>, > > > John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:34:31 -0700, in > > >> <alangbaker-B8F5CB.09343103082...(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > > >> <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > >> >In article > > >> ><7893511e-6ad1-4bcd-986b-8ac8fe644...(a)d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > > >> > MuahMan <muah...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> >> Apple fucked up another product, they are getting sued again. Deal > > >> >> with it you Apple apologist. > > > >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the same > > >> >heat limitations. > > > >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a > > >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The > > >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by Steven, > > >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. > > > >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. > > > I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe > > operating ranges. Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much > > more than 95 degrees F. > > Really? Then why don't their specs allow for it? ....including not only Apple, but Dell, Acer, Lenovo, HP ... you know, tiny little obscure players in the PC marketplace. -hh |