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From: Tom on 3 Aug 2010 14:52 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-C3AB25.10272303082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <u0kg56dbov1j21ks4k4nttfhrnafo7lapd(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:56:08 -0700, in >> <alangbaker-019111.09560803082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bja45(a)4ax.com>, >> > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:34:31 -0700, in >> >> <alangbaker-B8F5CB.09343103082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >In article >> >> ><7893511e-6ad1-4bcd-986b-8ac8fe6441a5(a)d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, >> >> > MuahMan <muahman(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Apple fucked up another product, they are getting sued again. Deal >> >> >> with it you Apple apologist. >> >> > >> >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the >> >> >same >> >> >heat limitations. >> >> >> >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with >> >> a >> >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The >> >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by >> >> Steven, >> >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. >> > >> >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. >> >> I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe >> operating ranges. Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much >> more than 95 degrees F. > > Really? Then why don't their specs allow for it? > > -- > Alan Baker > Vancouver, British Columbia > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> have had my ipad for 2 months the longest I have used it in one sitting was 4 hours between surfing the internet and reading a book and the I pad was barely warm, have never felt it hot the air temp a few times in this area was 94F and still not hot, have any ipad users on here had a overheating ipad. most of the posts seem to be about everything but.
From: John Navas on 3 Aug 2010 15:06 On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:27:23 -0700, in <alangbaker-C3AB25.10272303082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >In article <u0kg56dbov1j21ks4k4nttfhrnafo7lapd(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:56:08 -0700, in >> <alangbaker-019111.09560803082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bja45(a)4ax.com>, >> > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:34:31 -0700, in >> >> <alangbaker-B8F5CB.09343103082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >In article >> >> ><7893511e-6ad1-4bcd-986b-8ac8fe6441a5(a)d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, >> >> > MuahMan <muahman(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Apple fucked up another product, they are getting sued again. Deal >> >> >> with it you Apple apologist. >> >> > >> >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the same >> >> >heat limitations. >> >> >> >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a >> >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The >> >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by Steven, >> >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. >> > >> >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. >> >> I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe >> operating ranges. Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much >> more than 95 degrees F. > >Really? Then why don't their specs allow for it? Do you not understand the difference between guaranteed safe operating range and the design tolerances of the device? Have you ever actually tried it? -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on 3 Aug 2010 15:09 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:52:06 -0400, in <i39ogs$1qq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote: >"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >news:alangbaker-C3AB25.10272303082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >have had my ipad for 2 months the longest I have used it in one sitting was >4 hours between surfing the internet and reading a book and the I pad was >barely warm, have never felt it hot >the air temp a few times in this area was 94F and still not hot, have any >ipad users on here had a overheating ipad. most of the posts seem to be >about everything but. The apparent issue is radiant thermal absorption, not convection heating, with insufficient means to dump excess absorbed thermal energy, as when used in direct sunlight, not hot shade. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Alan Baker on 3 Aug 2010 15:50 In article <q1qg56dplvenajhek6l8q7iq22mc94r557(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:27:23 -0700, in > <alangbaker-C3AB25.10272303082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > >In article <u0kg56dbov1j21ks4k4nttfhrnafo7lapd(a)4ax.com>, > > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:56:08 -0700, in > >> <alangbaker-019111.09560803082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> > >> >In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bja45(a)4ax.com>, > >> > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:34:31 -0700, in > >> >> <alangbaker-B8F5CB.09343103082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > >> >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >In article > >> >> ><7893511e-6ad1-4bcd-986b-8ac8fe6441a5(a)d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > >> >> > MuahMan <muahman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >> Apple fucked up another product, they are getting sued again. Deal > >> >> >> with it you Apple apologist. > >> >> > > >> >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the > >> >> >same > >> >> >heat limitations. > >> >> > >> >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a > >> >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The > >> >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by > >> >> Steven, > >> >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. > >> > > >> >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. > >> > >> I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe > >> operating ranges. Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much > >> more than 95 degrees F. > > > >Really? Then why don't their specs allow for it? > > Do you not understand the difference between guaranteed safe operating > range and the design tolerances of the device? Have you ever actually > tried it? I understand them just fine. Can you show that the iPad is actually *behaving* any differently than other similar devices? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John Navas on 3 Aug 2010 16:19
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:50:13 -0700, in <alangbaker-6692C3.12501303082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >In article <q1qg56dplvenajhek6l8q7iq22mc94r557(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:27:23 -0700, in >> <alangbaker-C3AB25.10272303082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >In article <u0kg56dbov1j21ks4k4nttfhrnafo7lapd(a)4ax.com>, >> > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:56:08 -0700, in >> >> <alangbaker-019111.09560803082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >In article <l6ig569fjhpfb83o2t1jtsbnu1tq2bja45(a)4ax.com>, >> >> > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 09:34:31 -0700, in >> >> >> <alangbaker-B8F5CB.09343103082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> >> >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >In article >> >> >> ><7893511e-6ad1-4bcd-986b-8ac8fe6441a5(a)d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, >> >> >> > MuahMan <muahman(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Apple fucked up another product, they are getting sued again. Deal >> >> >> >> with it you Apple apologist. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >...and who ignored that other portable computing products have the >> >> >> >same >> >> >> >heat limitations. >> >> >> >> >> >> They do? Which ones? I've never had this kind of thermal issue with a >> >> >> cell phone or an Acer netbook even in pretty harsh conditions. The >> >> >> apologies here, starting with the "technical" nonsense posted by >> >> >> Steven, >> >> >> are a sorry commentary on Apple engineering. >> >> > >> >> >For a start, the ones already mentioned in the material you snipped. >> >> >> >> I'm talking real world issues, not spec sheets with guaranteed safe >> >> operating ranges. Well-designed electronic devices will operate at much >> >> more than 95 degrees F. >> > >> >Really? Then why don't their specs allow for it? >> >> Do you not understand the difference between guaranteed safe operating >> range and the design tolerances of the device? Have you ever actually >> tried it? > >I understand them just fine. > >Can you show that the iPad is actually *behaving* any differently than >other similar devices? It's not my allegation. I'm only pointing out that other devices do not have the alleged issue. Don't be so defensive. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement] |