From: John Fields on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:51:33 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:53:08 +0100, John Woodgate
>> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >In message <34c4d2p7opp8cvr997gvhfnm0sf7047gsn(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3
>> >Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com>
>> >writes
>> >>the grass-roots likability of most Americans.
>> >
>> >As manifested by the personal abuse levelled at any dissenter in this
>> >and many other threads?
>>
>> ---
>> Well, John, I think the "abuse" is retaliation against constant
>> America-bashing, and I don't really think this is grass-roots, do
>> you?
>
>Nothing at all to do with the popular sport your side of the pond of European
>bashing at all then ?

---
Some choose to; I don't, intentionally.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on


joseph2k wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
>
>
> > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> >
> >> And how can Israel militarily defeat an organisation as nebulous as
> >> Hezbollah? Are they going to kill every Lebanese supporter? From the air?
> >
> > Replace Israel with Britain, Hezbollah with the IRA and Lebanese with
> > Irish for an intereting perspective !
> >
> > Graham
>
> It took you this long to get there? I have been comparing the two
> situations for many years now. Two things in common, nurturing old grudges
> to be above law and twisted religious interpretations supporting violence.

I've been aware of the similarities for ages but it seems that our American
friends don't get it.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Phat Bytestard wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:18:56 +0100, John Woodgate
> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> Gave us:
>
> >In message <1jf5d2522hmdlisb1fcava6n9d0alones2(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4
> >Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes
> >
> >> Yes. We escorted hundreds of ships.
> >
> >When was that? And where? Before Pearl Harbour, the USN largely confined
> >itself to US territorial waters in the Atlantic, and when it first
> >ventured out, it suffered large losses from U-boat action. Captains
> >didn't have any experience of how to avoid attacks and to forestall or
> >retaliate.
>
> You have a poor memory. We escorted commercial shipping in the North
> Atlantic before Japan ever did anything at Pearl

By a couple of months. It was *your* ships that were being sunk too !


> . We are what ended up keeping the U-boats at bay.

What won the Battle of the Atlantic was in various measure, radar, airborne
patrols ( with radar ), the Leigh Light, the hedgehog and computer assisted code
breaking.

None of which are American.

Graham


From: John Fields on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:55:24 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:

>> ---
>> It will. Any society which worships death is bound to die. Either
>> through suicide or "death by cop".
>
>Islam doesn't worship death. You misunderstanding is a classic example of how
>the USA gets it wrong, by being over-simplistic about every issue.

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See, that's part of what I mean by "America Bashing."

I may be wrong about Islam's (or its practitioners') apparent
penchant for death, (although, reduced to its simplest terms, I
doubt it) but then you take _my_ error and try to make it seem like
it applies it to the entire country as if _I_ was all of America,
and then tag it with your own simplisic oversimplification of the
situation in order to try to make it seem like we're a nation of
misguided fools and all we have to do is listen to the likes of you
and everything will be all right.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:58:14 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:07:18 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Interesting how hating Saddam made one a weak wimpy leftist back then,
>> >and hating him now makes one a strong rightwing patriot.
>>
>> ---
>> And what did hating the US make you back then,
>
>Probably considered vaguely irrational.
>
>> and what does it make you now?
>
>An increasingly popular opinion reflecting concern over the USA's inability to
>get the picture.

---
I asked what it makes _you_, not what popular opinion was, but no
matter. Since you seem to identify with popular opinion, I suggest
you're merely one of the sheep who is blindly caught up in a sheep
stampede, LOL ;)


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer