From: John Fields on 4 Aug 2006 14:42 On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:51:33 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:53:08 +0100, John Woodgate >> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >In message <34c4d2p7opp8cvr997gvhfnm0sf7047gsn(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3 >> >Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> >> >writes >> >>the grass-roots likability of most Americans. >> > >> >As manifested by the personal abuse levelled at any dissenter in this >> >and many other threads? >> >> --- >> Well, John, I think the "abuse" is retaliation against constant >> America-bashing, and I don't really think this is grass-roots, do >> you? > >Nothing at all to do with the popular sport your side of the pond of European >bashing at all then ? --- Some choose to; I don't, intentionally. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on 4 Aug 2006 14:41 joseph2k wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > > > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > > > >> And how can Israel militarily defeat an organisation as nebulous as > >> Hezbollah? Are they going to kill every Lebanese supporter? From the air? > > > > Replace Israel with Britain, Hezbollah with the IRA and Lebanese with > > Irish for an intereting perspective ! > > > > Graham > > It took you this long to get there? I have been comparing the two > situations for many years now. Two things in common, nurturing old grudges > to be above law and twisted religious interpretations supporting violence. I've been aware of the similarities for ages but it seems that our American friends don't get it. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Aug 2006 14:51 Phat Bytestard wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:18:56 +0100, John Woodgate > <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> Gave us: > > >In message <1jf5d2522hmdlisb1fcava6n9d0alones2(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4 > >Aug 2006, Phat Bytestard <phatbytestard(a)getinmahharddrive.org> writes > > > >> Yes. We escorted hundreds of ships. > > > >When was that? And where? Before Pearl Harbour, the USN largely confined > >itself to US territorial waters in the Atlantic, and when it first > >ventured out, it suffered large losses from U-boat action. Captains > >didn't have any experience of how to avoid attacks and to forestall or > >retaliate. > > You have a poor memory. We escorted commercial shipping in the North > Atlantic before Japan ever did anything at Pearl By a couple of months. It was *your* ships that were being sunk too ! > . We are what ended up keeping the U-boats at bay. What won the Battle of the Atlantic was in various measure, radar, airborne patrols ( with radar ), the Leigh Light, the hedgehog and computer assisted code breaking. None of which are American. Graham
From: John Fields on 4 Aug 2006 14:55 On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:55:24 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: >> --- >> It will. Any society which worships death is bound to die. Either >> through suicide or "death by cop". > >Islam doesn't worship death. You misunderstanding is a classic example of how >the USA gets it wrong, by being over-simplistic about every issue. --- See, that's part of what I mean by "America Bashing." I may be wrong about Islam's (or its practitioners') apparent penchant for death, (although, reduced to its simplest terms, I doubt it) but then you take _my_ error and try to make it seem like it applies it to the entire country as if _I_ was all of America, and then tag it with your own simplisic oversimplification of the situation in order to try to make it seem like we're a nation of misguided fools and all we have to do is listen to the likes of you and everything will be all right. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 4 Aug 2006 15:14
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:58:14 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:07:18 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax >> <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >Interesting how hating Saddam made one a weak wimpy leftist back then, >> >and hating him now makes one a strong rightwing patriot. >> >> --- >> And what did hating the US make you back then, > >Probably considered vaguely irrational. > >> and what does it make you now? > >An increasingly popular opinion reflecting concern over the USA's inability to >get the picture. --- I asked what it makes _you_, not what popular opinion was, but no matter. Since you seem to identify with popular opinion, I suggest you're merely one of the sheep who is blindly caught up in a sheep stampede, LOL ;) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |