From: Frank Bemelman on
"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:55:24 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>John Fields wrote:
>
>>> ---
>>> It will. Any society which worships death is bound to die. Either
>>> through suicide or "death by cop".
>>
>>Islam doesn't worship death. You misunderstanding is a classic example of
>>how
>>the USA gets it wrong, by being over-simplistic about every issue.
>
> ---
> See, that's part of what I mean by "America Bashing."
>
> I may be wrong about Islam's (or its practitioners') apparent
> penchant for death, (although, reduced to its simplest terms, I
> doubt it) but then you take _my_ error and try to make it seem like
> it applies it to the entire country as if _I_ was all of America,
> and then tag it with your own simplisic oversimplification of the
> situation in order to try to make it seem like we're a nation of
> misguided fools and all we have to do is listen to the likes of you
> and everything will be all right.

Okay, so you're telling the US is not a nations of fools, and that
you are just one of the fools that exist in every nation.

Sounds fair enough. Actually, I never thought of the USA as a
nation of fools, at least not until that nation voted for
Bush for the *2ND* time. I mean, his first election can be
called an honest mistake, but how can a nation continue to
follow such an insane leader with such dangerous ideas? That
is *very* hard to understand.

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Thanks, Frank.
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From: Eeyore on


Don Bowey wrote:

> On 8/3/06 11:36 PM, in article 44D2EADE.852B18ED(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Don Bowey wrote:
> >
> >> I believe we should not fall into the trap of thinking the few USA bashers
> >> here
> >
> > I'm bashing current US foreign policy, not the country !
> >
> > Very representative actually. Not one Brit ( or any European ) has taken the
> > 'US side' as presented by the right-wingers here.
> >
> >> They really are insignificant in the scheme of things.
> >
> > Ultimately so will the USA be. Europe's already a bigger market than the USA
> > with a pop'n of > 500m and will be growing larger still. Ukraine's pop'n alone
> > is nearly 50m. Turkey ( if they ever get in ) has 70m.
> >
> > Graham
>
> The insignificant item is YOU, not your country. Your opinion does not
> necessarily represent the view of the majority of the UK population.

About 80% of it going by recent polls.


> Listening to people like you, Sloman, and Reg, in this setting, is counter
> productive.
>
> But be careful what you wish for; it may come to pass.

Peace is bad - war is good ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Don Bowey wrote:

> On 8/3/06 11:43 PM, in article 44D2ECAA.8F0FC2DE(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com,
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm amused that confronted with a challenge to an IQ test, 'Phat' responded
> > with
> > tales of his virility ! It's a truly sad reflection on the state of the USA
> today.
>
> And that says what about US foreign policy, which you avow is all you are
> commenting on regarding the American people?

It's an illustration of how dumb he is - which - taken together with other
contributors to this thread shows how misinformed the US is. Hence poor policy is
no great surprise.

Graham

From: John Fields on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:52:01 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:19:45 +0100, Eeyore
>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >John Fields wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:08:25 +0100, Eeyore
>> >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In return you got our 'golden jewels' utterly free of charge like radar and jet engines.
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> Hundreds of thousands of American lives lost fighting on your
>> >> behalf is hardly "free".
>> >
>> >On 'our' behalf ?
>>
>> ---
>> Didn't you ask us to get into the war?
>
>When we did ask you didn't.

---
We would have eventually. Or maybe not, who knows?
---

>The USA got into the war on its own account over a dispute with Japan in case you'd forgotten.

---
I think "dispute" is a little mild, but there was also the nearly
simultaneous Declaration of War by Germany, I believe.

In any case, lucky for you that we got dragged into it when we did,
no?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Woodgate on
In message <44d3a2ff$0$11330$e4fe514c(a)dreader28.news.xs4all.nl>, dated
Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Frank Bemelman <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> writes
>I mean, his first election can be called an honest mistake, but how can
>a nation continue to follow such an insane leader with such dangerous
>ideas?

By comparison with some previous Presidents, Bush is a genius and the
epitome of sanity. Look up accounts of some of the pre-WWII presidents,
back to the 19th century.
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