From: John Fields on
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:13:49 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <ant4d2d1vilsko5kson7t7c4m63cruvlcu(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3
>Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
>>Didn't you ask us to get into the war?
>
>Churchill did, several times, and US refused. However, US accepted the
>Japanese 'invitation'.
>
>By the twisted logic of this thread, that proves that the US takes more
>notice of its enemies than its friends.

---
When your friends are busy taking care of themselves and your
enemies are shooting at you it's hard not to.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
Eeyore wrote:
>
> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:50:13 +0100, Eeyore
>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Full of American food, vehicles, fuel, and ammo. Britain imported 70%
>>>> of its food just before the war, and had no substantial domestic
>>>> source of avaition fuel. Texas saved England, and England prefers not
>>>> to remember.
>>> We also remember we had to pay the bill. It didn't come free as you seem to
>>> infer.
>> The lives were free. You're welcome, even if you're not thankful.
>
> Of course we're thankful for your assistance. We were *both* at war though. It's
> not as if the US volunteered for it ! British, Commonwealth and the soldiers,
> airmen and sailors of other European countries died too you know ! Russian
> casualties were especially high.

Actually, only Britain and France volunteered for it as a matter of
principle. The US and Russia waited to be attacked.

Dirk
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
John Fields wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:13:49 +0100, John Woodgate
> <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <ant4d2d1vilsko5kson7t7c4m63cruvlcu(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3
>> Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
>>> Didn't you ask us to get into the war?
>> Churchill did, several times, and US refused. However, US accepted the
>> Japanese 'invitation'.
>>
>> By the twisted logic of this thread, that proves that the US takes more
>> notice of its enemies than its friends.
>
> ---
> When your friends are busy taking care of themselves and your
> enemies are shooting at you it's hard not to.

Sounds like Britain in 1940

Dirk

From: John Woodgate on
In message <44D3A7A2.8AFB84D3(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Fri, 4 Aug
2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
>
>
>John Woodgate wrote:
>
>> In message <44D390B7.75A4B9D1(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Fri, 4 Aug
>> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
>>
>> >The UN plan didn't give Israel all the territory.
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UN_Partition_Plan_For_Palestine_1947.
>> >png
>>
>> That was never going to work, was it. Three bits, two joined by a narrow
>> corridor and the third completely separate. And huge long borders with,
>> at least, unfriendly people, if not actively hostile.
>>
>> A real 'horse designed by a committee'.
>
>Presumably done by taking into account the local population distribution. Seems
>you can't win. It was a British plan btw !
>
This is VERY relevant to the present situation. The UN 'solution' was
clearly unworkable. So have been the long succession of 'solutions'
since then. What C Rice said is completely correct - that yet another
unworkable 'solution' is unacceptable.

An 'immediate cease-fire' is just a sound bite; everyone with even a
glimmer of intelligence knows that it would just give Hisbollah the
opportunity to re-group and re-supply.

The only long-term stable solution is a strong, democratic Lebanese
government, with a loyal armed service strong enough to disarm and
disband Hisbollah and deter Syria and Iran, who are Lebanon's real
enemies. Israel won't attack Lebanon if not provoked. Why should it? It
has nothing to gain by doing so. It doesn't attack Jordan or Egypt.
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John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: John Woodgate on
In message <f5a7d2pdo9eqlha46iun58gsdve3knqbqh(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4
Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes

>What I meant was the population, _not_ the land mass, FHS!

Yes, of course, but the question is still nonsense. No-one can tell what
would happen; it depends so much on why you disappeared and when.
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2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely.

John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK