From: Eeyore on 4 Aug 2006 19:40 John Fields wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:16:09 +0100, John Woodgate > <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >In message <c687d254mpenqg62t5jc453oqrp9l6sijr(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4 > >Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes > > > >>In any case, lucky for you that we got dragged into it when we did, no? > > > >Yes. Some would say 'providential'. With a capital P, indeed. > > --- > Providential for us, as well, that you were there since you helped > us in _our_ war with Germany. That's the most sane thing I think you've said so far in this thread. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Aug 2006 19:42 Frank Bemelman wrote: > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht > news:ngj7d2hst8b7oe15nr9ksl8c3t6620fjgg(a)4ax.com... > > > What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I > > guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let > > Israel die than to help her. Why is that? > > An eye for an eye, not 10 eyes for an eye. Israel has just > slaughtered too many. It has lost all of its credibility. > It has no longer the benefit of the doubt. My own opinion about Israel changed after the slaughters in the refugee camps like Shatilla. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatilla_Massacre This is just one reason why Israel doesn't deserve unconditional support. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Aug 2006 19:48 John Larkin wrote: > On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:03 -0500, John Fields > <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > > > >What I find incongruous is that so many of you all (Europeans, I > >guess.) would rather turn a blind eye toward the middle east and let > >Israel die than to help her. Why is that? > > > What's a bigger mystery is why the European press gets so worked up > over scores of collateral casualties in Lebanon and is silent when > millions are dying in former European colonies in Africa. It's the > differential blame game (the US is killing Lebanese; the Africa thing > has nothing to do with us) with a factor of 1e5 or so. But it's *not* silent about Africa ! Where did you get that idea ? Whose idea was it to relieve debtor countries in Africa ( a serious underlting problem ) btw ? Not Dubya's for sure, he's never been keen on the idea and the US refused to join a plan to help provide clean unpolluted water to developing countries ! Where *do* you get this stuff ? In Europe, the US is considered notorious for simply not giving a damn about poor countries. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Aug 2006 19:49 John Larkin wrote: > On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:38:45 -0500, John Fields > <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > > >As far as the "Nation of Fools" thing goes, even you must be aware > >that the entire populace didn't vote for Bush. As a matter of fact, > >only a miniscule percentage of it did, the electors who cast their > >vote for him. > > > >http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2004/allocation.html > > > >A lousy system if ever I saw one, and I see no reason why > >presidential (in fact, _all_) elections couldn't be carried out > >on-line where the result would truly be popular. > > Like the way Tony Blair was elected? Eh ? Graham
From: Don Bowey on 4 Aug 2006 19:51
On 8/4/06 12:42 PM, in article 44D3A338.CD348BDB(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Don Bowey wrote: > >> On 8/3/06 11:36 PM, in article 44D2EADE.852B18ED(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com, >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Don Bowey wrote: >>> >>>> I believe we should not fall into the trap of thinking the few USA bashers >>>> here >>> >>> I'm bashing current US foreign policy, not the country ! >>> >>> Very representative actually. Not one Brit ( or any European ) has taken the >>> 'US side' as presented by the right-wingers here. >>> >>>> They really are insignificant in the scheme of things. >>> >>> Ultimately so will the USA be. Europe's already a bigger market than the USA >>> with a pop'n of > 500m and will be growing larger still. Ukraine's pop'n >>> alone >>> is nearly 50m. Turkey ( if they ever get in ) has 70m. >>> >>> Graham >> >> The insignificant item is YOU, not your country. Your opinion does not >> necessarily represent the view of the majority of the UK population. > > About 80% of it going by recent polls. > > >> Listening to people like you, Sloman, and Reg, in this setting, is counter >> productive. >> >> But be careful what you wish for; it may come to pass. > > Peace is bad - war is good (snip) Hey, I like trimming text your way. No, I mean help may not be so readily available when Bush is out and a Democratic president is in place. We will spend more on internal affairs and a whole lot less on aid around the world. Don |