From: owl on 21 Mar 2010 15:20 In comp.os.linux.advocacy gl4317(a)yahoo.com <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > In article <210320100017588350%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam > <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> In article <gl4317-2103100004290001(a)69-30-9-146.pxd.easystreet.com>, >> <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > What other methods are available to communicate with said theoretical >> > computer-like-thingie? >> > >> > Parallel printer port? >> > 5.25 inch floppy disk? >> > 8 inch floppy disk? >> > Zip disk? >> > 8 track tape player? >> > PunchCard? >> > Player piano spool? >> >> wait just a minute. the ipad can't use any of that? >> >> what were they thinking??? > > > I actually once had an "interesting experience" with a "portable > computer-like-thingie" that used 8 inch floppy disks. I believe it was a > Wang computer, and was considered "portable" because even though it > weighed some 150 pounds, you could unplug it from the wall and roll it > from building to building on the convenient four casters that were built > into it. > Sounds like my Octane III.
From: JEDIDIAH on 21 Mar 2010 23:20 On 2010-03-21, Eric <eric(a)ericlindsay.com> wrote: > > > In article <2s6pn.16369$3D3.4199(a)newsfe19.iad>, > "OP" <Otto.Philips(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> You need a Dock Connector-to-USB adapter . >> >> Buy one here for an additional $29 bucks. >> >> http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/entry/apple-ipad-camera-connection-ki >> t/ >> >> More Apple "innovation! >> >> Remember, Jobs doesn't like USB either. > > USB is a master slave system (unlike peer to peer Firewire). Since a Mac > or a Windows box is (via iTunes) the master to an iPad as a slave, why > should an iPad also be a USB master? That is against the original USB > spec. The iPad would also be required to supply either 100mA (or by So the thing has different hardware that allows it to be one or the other. It's hardly rocket science. Of course the reason to have a proper USB port would be so that you don't have to have it tethered to a "real computer" and can get content on and off of it without the need to go through your iTunes account. They're talking up the office productivity apps yet don't have any intention of allowing the device the sort of storage options that any other device running similar apps would be expected to have. > negotiation) 500mA to the slave, which can be a pain on a low capacity > battery. Seems like Apple are treating the camera connection kit as a > special case (probably as USB Mass Storage device). > > I am hoping that the iPad can handle an EyeFi camera memory card via > WiFi (and I am also hope that some year, EyeFi cards are actually > available for sale in Australia). -- ...of course if you are forced against your will to use Windows in ||| the day time your bound to have a lot to vent about in the evening. / | \
From: JEDIDIAH on 21 Mar 2010 23:15 On 2010-03-21, gl4317(a)yahoo.com <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > In article <egy9a.w4t(a)rooftop.invalid>, owl <owl(a)rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Given a choice, would you prefer to have, or not to have, USB on a >> portable computer-like-thingie? > > > What other methods are available to communicate with said theoretical > computer-like-thingie? > > Firewire? > Bluetooth? > Parallel printer port? > Ethernet? > WiFi? Standard networking would also be good. There are a number of well developed and robust protocols that a device of this kind could use in order to tie itself into the rest of the content that someone might have. A nifty tablet that's closed is like being all dolled up with no place to go. The cult must perpetuate the idea that anything but a closed device where your best option is to pay Steve for everything is the only thing that "normal" people will ever be able to handle. Nevermind that whole "Macintosh" thing. [deletia] -- ...of course if you are forced against your will to use Windows in ||| the day time your bound to have a lot to vent about in the evening. / | \
From: nospam on 22 Mar 2010 00:22 In article <slrnhqdo6o.48s.jedi(a)nomad.mishnet>, JEDIDIAH <jedi(a)nomad.mishnet> wrote: > Standard networking would also be good. > > There are a number of well developed and robust protocols that a device > of this kind could use in order to tie itself into the rest of the content > that someone might have. A nifty tablet that's closed is like being all > dolled up with no place to go. good thing that it has standard networking then. > The cult must perpetuate the idea that anything but a closed device > where your best option is to pay Steve for everything is the only thing > that "normal" people will ever be able to handle. there's no requirement to pay steve anything (other than the initial purchase) to use it.
From: nospam on 22 Mar 2010 00:24
In article <slrnhqdofm.48s.jedi(a)nomad.mishnet>, JEDIDIAH <jedi(a)nomad.mishnet> wrote: > > USB is a master slave system (unlike peer to peer Firewire). Since a Mac > > or a Windows box is (via iTunes) the master to an iPad as a slave, why > > should an iPad also be a USB master? That is against the original USB > > spec. The iPad would also be required to supply either 100mA (or by > > So the thing has different hardware that allows it to be one or the > other. which is additional cost. loading it up with all possible features is a recipe for disaster. > It's hardly rocket science. Of course the reason to have a proper > USB port would be so that you don't have to have it tethered to a "real > computer" and can get content on and off of it without the need to go > through your iTunes account. you don't have to have it tethered and can easily get content onto and off of it. |