From: JEDIDIAH on
On 2010-03-22, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> In article <pan.2010.03.22.16.10.10.772538(a)nospam.invalid>, chrisv
><chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "Additional cost" is an extremely lame, dare I say "asinine", excuse for
>> not having USB ports in a premium-priced product like the iPad.
>
> if the typical user isn't going to use the usb ports, it's a waste of

Yet the sell an overpriced keyboard accessory.

Clearly they think that there is some value in allowing their users
to have access to USB type devices to a very limited degree.

Of course they derive some benefit from directing you through their
own proprietary interface.

> money, regardless of cost. the ipad is also not premium priced. in
> fact, people were surprised that it didn't cost *more*.


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From: Mocassin joe on

"chrisv" <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2010.03.22.16.10.10.772538(a)nospam.invalid...
> Mocassin joe wrote:
>
>> "nospam" wrote:
>>>
>>> which is additional cost. loading it up with all possible features is a
>>> recipe for disaster.
>>
>> Additional cost? How much additionl cost on existing ten cent components
>> and mature technology?
>
> "Additional cost" is an extremely lame, dare I say "asinine", excuse for
> not having USB ports in a premium-priced product like the iPad.
>
In fact, it doesn't even have Firewire.


From: JF Mezei on
nospam wrote:

> if the typical user isn't going to use the usb ports, it's a waste of
> money, regardless of cost. the ipad is also not premium priced. in
> fact, people were surprised that it didn't cost *more*.

I suspect Apple has had internal debates about this.

Since just about every device has its own proprietary cable between
itself and a standard "master" USB port, the proprietary USB cable
between the ipad and a computer is no different. At least, it is
supposed to be compatible with the proprietary cables used between
ipods/iphones and computers.

A ipad user wanting to download camera/GPS data to an ipad would need a
proprietary cable between his device and any computer anyways. So the
fact that you need a little dongle/adaptor to create standard master USB
port via the proprietary ipod connector on the ipad doesn't really add
much since you can simply have that dongle left attached to the camera's
cable. So when you need to connect camera to iapd duringa trip, you pull
out that cable and plug it between your camera and ipad.

Yeah, having a "real" master USB port on the ipad would be nice. But the
availability of an adaptor doing the same does fulfill the functionality
that is needed, albeit costlier and a bit less convenient.

From: nospam on
In article <slrnhqfjto.mgc.jedi(a)nomad.mishnet>, JEDIDIAH
<jedi(a)nomad.mishnet> wrote:

> Yet the sell an overpriced keyboard accessory.

it's only overpriced if nobody buys it.

> Clearly they think that there is some value in allowing their users
> to have access to USB type devices to a very limited degree.

some might want it, but not all will. that's why it's an accessory and
not built in.

> Of course they derive some benefit from directing you through their
> own proprietary interface.

you mean the standard ipod dock connector that's been around for 7
years and for which there are zillions of third party devices
available?
From: Hadron on
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <slrnhqfjto.mgc.jedi(a)nomad.mishnet>, JEDIDIAH
> <jedi(a)nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>
>> Yet the sell an overpriced keyboard accessory.
>
> it's only overpriced if nobody buys it.
>
>> Clearly they think that there is some value in allowing their users
>> to have access to USB type devices to a very limited degree.
>
> some might want it, but not all will. that's why it's an accessory and
> not built in.
>
>> Of course they derive some benefit from directing you through their
>> own proprietary interface.
>
> you mean the standard ipod dock connector that's been around for 7
> years and for which there are zillions of third party devices
> available?

jed doesnt understand that a single HW target and single OS makes for
better applications and more return for the developers which results in
more and better QA and more redevelopment and more ... Oh. You get
it. Jed doesn't. Jed thinks Doom II is cutting edge and it takes 2 guys
a week or two to make a modern game for the PC.

In short, Jed is an idiots idiot.