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From: nospam on 28 Mar 2010 00:39 In article <9651680b-51dc-496e-b757-b6297b8382ca(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, MuahMan <muahman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have a Dell monitor that has an 11-1 card reader. My laptop 13-1 > card reader. reads them all except CF cards I believe. Only my > Prosumer Canon 50D uses it though. Even my new 7D has gone SDHC. how many types of cards do you have? 1? maybe 2? do you really think apple should have put a card reader in the ipad that can read 13 types of cards?
From: nospam on 28 Mar 2010 00:41 In article <d36a3b39-d07b-474f-8c01-b0d5851b3322(a)j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, -hh <recscuba_google(a)huntzinger.com> wrote: > I predominantly use CF. So since the argument is to be a "Photo Do > All", you have to add a CF slot too. > > BTW, my brother uses some lousy Olympus cameras ... xD card. Add that > slot too. > > That pretty much leave's Sony's Memory Stick out in the cold. Yup, > one more card slot. > > Of course, there's also mini-SD and micro-SD .. should Apple put in > two more ports for these, so as to avoid having introducing two tiny > "easy to misplace" SD adaptors? don't forget those old cameras that took pcmcia cards. you just never know who might still be using one.
From: Kelsey Bjarnason on 28 Mar 2010 00:31 [snips] nospam wrote: >> My machine regularly has a USB wireless mouse, an external drive (which >> happens to be eSata, but supports USB), and a 16Gb USB key hanging off >> it. > > doesn't sound like a laptop. nice try though. Don't care what it sounds like - it's a laptop. And when it goes mobile with me, those devices generally all go with it. >> The wife's netbook has the USB mouse, USB key and a USB DVD drive >> attached pretty much all the time. Plus a USB printer, though she swaps >> the key and printer back and forth - only so many USB slots. > > ok sample size of one, or two if you also count yours. > > how is that representative of the millions of users out there? > > hint: it isn't. Doesn't need to be. You made an assertion where even a trivial sampling is sufficient to show it bullshit. I gave you just such a sampling. If you want to add the laptops around the office, there's about six of them - *all* with USB mice. Or friend Claire's machine - USB mouse, USB printer. Most of the laptop users I know who also use desktops regularly also have USB keys, for efficient transferring of data... to and from their laptops. If you need to take data off the PC and onto the laptop, it makes more sense to plug in they key, copy and go, than to dig out the laptop, fire it up, log in, mount a share (or equivalent), copy the data over, log out, shut down the laptop, pack it away and _then_ go. In fact, *every* person I've met who uses the laptop for more than just occasional use (eg checking emails while on the road) has at least one or two USB devices for the machine. >> We each have the same basic problem: too few USB ports per machine. >> Yes, we could get USB hubs, but that's not the point... the notion >> people don't use USB on laptops is laughable. > > step outside your house for a change. look at people who use laptops in > coffee shops, airports, hotels, conferences, schools, workplaces, etc. Perfect example - coffee shops. I tend to go to these moderately frequently, as do a lot of laptop-using folks - almost all of whom have mice, and from the dongles stuck in the USB ports, they tend to be USB mice. And, of course, there's a *wide* variety of USB mice for laptops available at most any computer retailer - a product which would be hard to find if, as you assert, there was no market for it, it being such a rarely-used item. > rarely are they using usb devices plugged into their laptops. ignore > the ones using macs if you want. doesn't matter. Actually, they _often_ have such devices. USB mice, because I'm far from the only one who hates the track pads. USB thumb drives, because transferring data via stick is endlessly more efficient in many cases. > and as for people who plug a mouse into a laptop, that's mainly because > the laptop has a shitty trackpad or other pointing device. in other > words, that's not a feature. Actually, the trackpad in my laptop is particularly nice. Sensitive to motion, it allows quick but precise positioning. Not quite so sensitive to pressure, but if you tap it, it acts as a mouse button. It has two "regular" mouse buttons as well, and a "slider" which works to control vertical scroll bars. Very slick, works like a charm. It also has an on/off button, used to enable and disable the track pad, and it's virtually always in the "off" position - because despite it being a particularly _good_ trackpad, it's still a _trackpad_, which is just nowhere near as comfortable a device to use as a mouse, at least for me, and, judging by the popularity of laptop mice, this is true for many other people as well. So, yeah, sorry, having USB is a definite feature, and *not* having it is about as brain-dead as you can get - unless you're after additional coin by charging for additional devices to fix your own damned design flaws.
From: JF Mezei on 28 Mar 2010 00:45 D.F. Manno wrote: > You don't know that, either. Let's say it costs $3 to put it in every > iPad, adding $10 to the retail price (because a price ending in nine is > important), versus $30 for the adapter, which they sell for $50. It is also quite possible that Apple started off with intentions to put as much on the device as they could, including firewire, USB/master and USB/slave, 3d HD camera, dolby 5.1 microphones, holographic 3d screen display etc etc. Then, when the "dream" device is priced, they say "we have to cut some things" (or if the hardware required to implement everything is too big). And when they start to cut stuff out is when they have to start to prioritise. Between removing USB-master plug and removing the button to prevent automatic orientation changes, they would have looked at the marketing value of each feature against the hardware cost of each and decided that cutting the USB-master was the least-worse decision.
From: nospam on 28 Mar 2010 00:55
In article <4m2387-525.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> My machine regularly has a USB wireless mouse, an external drive (which > >> happens to be eSata, but supports USB), and a 16Gb USB key hanging off > >> it. > > > > doesn't sound like a laptop. nice try though. > > Don't care what it sounds like - it's a laptop. And when it goes mobile > with me, those devices generally all go with it. you carry all that stuff wherever you go?? > Doesn't need to be. You made an assertion where even a trivial sampling > is sufficient to show it bullshit. I gave you just such a sampling. nope. i made an assertion based on several years of seeing people in public and what they do with their computers. just the other day at the airport and on the plane, nobody had anything plugged into their laptops, other than a power cord (and only sometimes). > > rarely are they using usb devices plugged into their laptops. ignore > > the ones using macs if you want. doesn't matter. > > Actually, they _often_ have such devices. USB mice, because > I'm far from the only one who hates the track pads. USB thumb drives, > because transferring data via stick is endlessly more efficient in many > cases. you haven't used good trackpads then. there are some shitty ones, and there are some very good ones. > > and as for people who plug a mouse into a laptop, that's mainly because > > the laptop has a shitty trackpad or other pointing device. in other > > words, that's not a feature. > > Actually, the trackpad in my laptop is particularly nice. i thought you hated them. > So, yeah, sorry, having USB is a definite feature, and *not* having it > is about as brain-dead as you can get - unless you're after additional > coin by charging for additional devices to fix your own damned design > flaws. which still doesn't answer the question on what would you do with a mouse on a device that has no cursor and is designed for touch. |