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From: MuahMan on 28 Mar 2010 08:36 On Mar 27, 9:20 pm, Hadron<hadronqu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...(a)gmail.com> writes: > > [snips] > > > nospam wrote: > > >> In article <hobnu6$4if$0...(a)news.t-online.com>, Peter Köhlmann > >> <peter-koehlm...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > > >>> Thats fine. Please list the makes of cameras which will connect to the > >>> iPad via WiFi > > >> any camera with an eye-fi card, any nikon or canon dslr with a wifi > >> attachment, and there are some compact digicams with wifi too, with > >> more coming in the future. > > > So, your response to "where the hell is the bog-standard USB support?" > > is to either buy a completely pointless, easy-to-lose adapter whcih has > > no reason for existing, or to replace perfectly good existing equipment > > with new equipment, just to work around Apple's inability to provide > > bog-standard USB support. > > > Well, they have you trained well. "When in doubt, buy." > > Good old Kelsey Bighead. > > Only the likes of Kelsey or Ian Hilliard could actually believe that > Apple are "unable" to do something even if they wanted it. > Like break into the enterprise?
From: -hh on 28 Mar 2010 08:50 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam...(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote: > > For $83, I can get a board which contains: [...] > > How big is that board ? What is its power consumption ? Can it run on > batteries ? With all of those ports - some of which are legacy - their physical dimensions dictate that its product not going to be able to be particularly small & slim without violating the laws of physics & engineering. FWIW, this is a good example of the temptations of "Feature Creep", without giving good critical thought to what the product is really for and then optimizing it for that capability. Plus there's also a big difference between various "commodity" components: yes, you can get some stuff really cheap, but the trade off may very well be that it doesn't have the power efficiencies of the newest (and thus, most expensive) versions. -hh
From: Hadron on 28 Mar 2010 08:32 "Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> writes: > "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:280320100146148782%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... >> In article <au5387-i67.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason >> <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If they can stuff all that on a board for $83 - that's $83 Cdn - then >>> sorry, the notion that USB ports cost more than a buck or two a pop, >>> tops, is simply lunacy. >> >> and what about writing the necessary drivers, documentation, testing, >> etc. ? all that happens magically? >> >>> Apple *could* have chosen to use industry-standard connectors, available >>> for cheap almost everywhere. No, not them. They chose, instead, to do >>> the R&D and testing and package design and so on and so fifth, to build >>> their own screwball connectors, then _more_ to design "adapters" to turn >>> these screwball connectors into something useful to the rest of the >>> world. >> >> what screwball connector is that? the dock connector? >> >> the dock connector is the way it is because they needed *both* firewire >> and usb (the original ipod was just firewire, and even had a standard >> firewire socket). they also wanted line level (and later video) output >> as well as remote control input, with the convenience of just *one* >> connector. >> >> had they used 'industry standard connectors' the ipod would have been >> ridiculously huge because it would have needed an array of sockets on >> the side. that would have been *stupid*. very stupid. > > Don't waste your time with Kelsey - she's completely clueless as to what > exists and how people use their devices. It's hilarious listening to her try > and tell you various "usage models" and why USB is a necessity because > here's a thread Kelsey arguing why it makes no sense for the iPhone to have > 8-Gigs of memory... she thinks the purpose of the 8-gigs is to "store phone > numbers for 180 million people." > > Anyone this out of touch with reality hasn't a clue of what people are doing > and what needs of actual users might be. > > <quote> >> Just picked up the 8-gig model > > (Kelsey) > > It's a phone; I don't need 8 gigs on a phone; I need a contact list and the > ability to make and receive calls. > > Yeah, fine, cute toy and all, but some gimboid up there is trying to fob it > off as a "wowee" when in fact, it's more of a"gee whiz" - as in "Gee whiz, > now I can store phone numbers for 180 million people... and the two friends > I actually have." > > So explain to me the benefits of having 8GB *on a phone*. Not on a video > player, or music player, or USB key, etc, etc, etc, but on a *phone*. > > My current phone has, among its other perks, Java and a few java-based > games. Why? No idea. If I wanted a portable gaming system, I'd get a > PSP or some such. The parts I actually use are the contact list, the > dialing and the receiving - none of which requires 8GB or Java. > > So explain to me the benefits of having 8 GB *on a phone*. > > </quote> > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d2f0927ff56c2f9b/a87a5f12c9408bc4 It was more like Kelsey Bighead not actually realising just how flexible and useful an iPhone is. The rest of the world gets it. Only a few COLA wackos seem to get confused. I bet she sees the reasons for 8gigs or more on an Android phone.
From: D.F. Manno on 28 Mar 2010 13:32 In article <4a3387-ve5.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > D.F. Manno wrote: > > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote: > > > >> My machine regularly has a USB wireless mouse, an external drive (which > >> happens to be eSata, but supports USB), and a 16Gb USB key hanging off > >> it. > >> > >> The wife's netbook has the USB mouse, USB key and a USB DVD drive > >> attached pretty much all the time. Plus a USB printer, though she swaps > >> the key and printer back and forth - only so many USB slots. > >> > >> We each have the same basic problem: too few USB ports per machine. > >> Yes, we could get USB hubs, but that's not the point... the notion > >> people don't use USB on laptops is laughable. > >> > >> Oh, and yes, we also have a USB roaming wireless network adapter, which > >> we share about. > >> > >> And let's not forget the USB phones, which we transfer contacts, photos, > >> etc, to and from. > >> > >> Or the USB digital camera. > > > > If you're already lugging that much stuff around with you, what's one > > more adapter? > > What's one more completely pointless adapter that has no justification > for existiing, apart from Apple being too barking stupid to put a USB > port on a machine which so obviously needs one? And then *charging* you > to pay for this fix to its idiotic design flaw? > > Oh, nothing at all. <snip> > And where, exactly, did you get the notion we cart all this stuff around > with us? From you: "And when it goes mobile with me, those devices generally all go with it." -- D.F. Manno dfmanno(a)mail.com "Quid lucrum istic mihi est?"
From: D.F. Manno on 28 Mar 2010 13:37
In article <au5387-i67.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I know you Apple Fanbois love to defend Apple's idiocies at whatever > cost, but let's not be *too* damned foolish about it, what say? Hey, jackass, I'm not buying an iPad. I don't have any need that I see it fulfilling for me. The difference between you and me is that I don't reject it as totally useless merely because I have no use for it. I recognize and accept that others may well have some use for it. You can't accept that fact, but that's your problem. -- D.F. Manno dfmanno(a)mail.com "Quid lucrum istic mihi est?" |