No USB ports on Ipad!
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From: ed on 28 Mar 2010 04:22 On Mar 23, 11:01 am, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <slrnhqhsp6.mm4.j...(a)nomad.mishnet>, JEDIDIAH > <j...(a)nomad.mishnet> wrote: > > >> You have no idea how the typical user may want to use USB ports. > > > > neither do you. > > > ...sure he does. He probably sees how people use other devices. > > when i see people using laptops, they rarely, if ever, have something > plugged into a usb port. the few times they do, it's usually a 3g data > card, which is built into the ipad (and has substantially cheaper usage > fees). i would guess external storage is the most common (usb drives). then mice. then 3g cards. i have my phone plugged in most often. <snip>
From: Hadron on 27 Mar 2010 21:20 Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> writes: > [snips] > > nospam wrote: > >> In article <hobnu6$4if$00$2(a)news.t-online.com>, Peter Köhlmann >> <peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote: >> >>> Thats fine. Please list the makes of cameras which will connect to the >>> iPad via WiFi >> >> any camera with an eye-fi card, any nikon or canon dslr with a wifi >> attachment, and there are some compact digicams with wifi too, with >> more coming in the future. > > So, your response to "where the hell is the bog-standard USB support?" > is to either buy a completely pointless, easy-to-lose adapter whcih has > no reason for existing, or to replace perfectly good existing equipment > with new equipment, just to work around Apple's inability to provide > bog-standard USB support. > > Well, they have you trained well. "When in doubt, buy." > Good old Kelsey Bighead. Only the likes of Kelsey or Ian Hilliard could actually believe that Apple are "unable" to do something even if they wanted it. Yes Kelsey, I'm sure that their award winning engineers are "unable" to make USB work and thats why they dont include .... Oh wait! They do.
From: Ezekiel on 28 Mar 2010 08:13 "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:280320100146148782%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... > In article <au5387-i67.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>, Kelsey Bjarnason > <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> If they can stuff all that on a board for $83 - that's $83 Cdn - then >> sorry, the notion that USB ports cost more than a buck or two a pop, >> tops, is simply lunacy. > > and what about writing the necessary drivers, documentation, testing, > etc. ? all that happens magically? > >> Apple *could* have chosen to use industry-standard connectors, available >> for cheap almost everywhere. No, not them. They chose, instead, to do >> the R&D and testing and package design and so on and so fifth, to build >> their own screwball connectors, then _more_ to design "adapters" to turn >> these screwball connectors into something useful to the rest of the >> world. > > what screwball connector is that? the dock connector? > > the dock connector is the way it is because they needed *both* firewire > and usb (the original ipod was just firewire, and even had a standard > firewire socket). they also wanted line level (and later video) output > as well as remote control input, with the convenience of just *one* > connector. > > had they used 'industry standard connectors' the ipod would have been > ridiculously huge because it would have needed an array of sockets on > the side. that would have been *stupid*. very stupid. Don't waste your time with Kelsey - she's completely clueless as to what exists and how people use their devices. It's hilarious listening to her try and tell you various "usage models" and why USB is a necessity because here's a thread Kelsey arguing why it makes no sense for the iPhone to have 8-Gigs of memory... she thinks the purpose of the 8-gigs is to "store phone numbers for 180 million people." Anyone this out of touch with reality hasn't a clue of what people are doing and what needs of actual users might be. <quote> > Just picked up the 8-gig model (Kelsey) It's a phone; I don't need 8 gigs on a phone; I need a contact list and the ability to make and receive calls. Yeah, fine, cute toy and all, but some gimboid up there is trying to fob it off as a "wowee" when in fact, it's more of a"gee whiz" - as in "Gee whiz, now I can store phone numbers for 180 million people... and the two friends I actually have." So explain to me the benefits of having 8GB *on a phone*. Not on a video player, or music player, or USB key, etc, etc, etc, but on a *phone*. My current phone has, among its other perks, Java and a few java-based games. Why? No idea. If I wanted a portable gaming system, I'd get a PSP or some such. The parts I actually use are the contact list, the dialing and the receiving - none of which requires 8GB or Java. So explain to me the benefits of having 8 GB *on a phone*. </quote> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d2f0927ff56c2f9b/a87a5f12c9408bc4
From: -hh on 28 Mar 2010 08:27 Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > -hh wrote: > > > > If you've never seen damaged equipment as a consequence, you don't get > > out enough. > > Maybe, maybe not. I do know that our laptops - complete with thumb > drives and (at the time) "two inch" USB mouse dongles... Mouse dongle - - so its on a cable, so the cantilever of a thumb drive doesn't apply. It was a nice attempt to claim relevancy, though. > ... usually in a makeshift bed in the back of the van ... Oh yeah, you get around a _lot_. Did you know that many hotel chains are now including free WiFi? :-) > Of course, one could extend your logic. After all, the screen is > usually the most fragile part, so, because there is some risk of it > being damaged... The screen is vulnerable, which is one of the reasons why I'm concerned about tablet designs ... all of them, not just the iPad. This perhaps could be one of the main reasons why Windows-based tablets simply haven't gone anywhere in the past decade...even if this concern is overblown. The problem with the idea of eliminating the display screen is that - - unlike a USB port - - there's no alternative yet to replace it with, let alone even a halfway good one. -hh
From: -hh on 28 Mar 2010 08:36
ed <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: > nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > when i see people using laptops, they rarely, if ever, have something > > plugged into a usb port. the few times they do, it's usually a 3g data > > card, which is built into the ipad (and has substantially cheaper usage > > fees). > > i would guess external storage is the most common (usb drives). then > mice. then 3g cards. i have my phone plugged in most often. While I'm on the road, the only things that I see plugged into laptops are: a) 3G cards ... while in mobility mode(s) b) USB thumb drives ... at the end of the meeting where everyone would swap data. This is on the decline, however, due to Windows-based security issues which have prompted a lot of businesses to lock them down to varying degrees. The main group that I'm in now has gone back to having the Secretary burn CD-Rs...which ironically makes for better record-keeping. Sitting around in these meetings, there's _never_ an external drive, and virtually never any USB mice. About the only mouse that I can recall seeing in the past ~5 years was a miniature Bluetooth one about the size of a matchbox car. -hh |