From: Woody on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> On 23/07/2010 15:28, Woody wrote:
>
> >>>> Tesco contract is �219 for the phone, then 12 months at �35 month
> > > > > for
> >>>> 750 mins and unlimited texts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless a year on simplicity is �40, I don't see how it can be
> >>>> cheaper.
> >>>> It seems quite a bit more expensive.
> >>>
> >>> Figures wrong, that was the price of a 16Gb on tesco and a 32GB pay
> > > > as
> >>> you go.
> >>>
> >>> so the price difference is �140, from the tesco contract.
> >>> But simplicity is �240 for 300 minutes, 500 meg of data and unimited
> >>> texts.
> >>>
> >>> So �100 more pay as you go for 450 minutes less and half the data.
> >>>
> >>> Think I will still stick with tesco!
> >>>
> >>
> >> But what do you do after 12 months? Buy another phone?
> >
> > Carry on? Why do you have to do something, phone contracts always
> > carry
> > on if you don't do anything.
>
> In which case the simplicity contract works out cheaper, surely?

Why? after 12 months you are �140 up on the deal and at that point you
can get a simplicity deal. Or better still (as the simplicity deals seem
quite poor value), another phone deal and stuff the sim from that in the
iPhone if that is what you want to use.

> you're paying �15 per month you'll soon catch up on that saving as you
> aren't paying �35 per month.

No becasue you can change.

> My point being that if you are likely to buy a new phone after 12 months
> then what's a better value contract is different to if you buy a new one
> every two years.

I still don't see it. After a year you can switch to a simplicity
contract if you want, which is �20 a month for more phone but less data.
or �15 for half the data and slightly less phone.

Or better still a better contract from somewhere else.

> >> I only intend to
> >> upgrade to every other model so working out the costs for 24 months
> >> seems to make more sense - in which case I *think* Tesco's contract
> >> costs more.
> >
> > I wouldn't know, I never look at a 24 month contract. in fact the
> > iPhone
> > was the first time I went beyond a 12 month one.
>
> Me too. But I'm not buying a new phone every year - I used to, and sell
> them on eBay, but that doesn't seem profitable any more; better to stick
> with a longer contract and save that way.

I would rather be contract free.

I am not saying that I want to upgrade, but I don't want to be prevented
from upgrading.
Currently I can't upgrade until christmas, and i dont like that.

> The only phone I'll be buying
> for a long time is an iPhone; can't afford or justify one of those every
> year, and they come out yearly, so it makes sense to work things out on
> a 24-month cycle (whether or not I actually have a contract that long).

I don't know what phone I will get. Probably an iPhone, but if android
leapfrogs it then I will go for that. I will go for whatever is best for
me at any given moment.

> > If the option is a 24 month contract or carry on with what I have, I
> > would carry on with what I had.
>
> Fair enough. I'd decide I wanted a phone then see what contracts were
> available, rather than seeing what contracts were available then
> deciding I wanted a phone.

That is what I did, why I ended up with an 18 month, as there was no
other choice.

> >> I think one thing this part of the discussion proves is that phone
> >> pricing is complicated.
> >
> > Not really.
>
> Well, out of the three of us we've so far formed at least four opinions
> on the value for money of various contracts...

That is becasue what is value for money depends on what someone is
after.



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Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Pd on
Gwynne Harper <g.harper(a)gmx.line> wrote:

> There's nothing really wrong with my now out-of-contract 3G; I may end
> up not bothering at all. I wonder how many others will say the same
> thing? I've not even put iOS 4 on it - inherent suspicion plus away
> from home, so difficult to unbrick if anything went wrong, plus feeling
> that the additional features for a 3G simply don't justify the upgrade.

iOS4 on a 3G runs like a pig with no legs. They really should have said
iOS4 is for 3GS and above.

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Pd