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From: Pd on 18 Jul 2010 11:50 ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Facts are facts though. Sure, but what are the facts? > If Apple had hidden the antenna behind a plastic case, none of this would > have happened. Is that a fact? > It's no better and no worse than any other cellphone at > holding a signal when the antenna is shielded by a hand. Is that a fact? How do you know? > I can replicate the effect on a 3gs, an original iPhone 2g > and a Blackberry Curve. Not to mention a couple of old > Nokias I have in a desk draw. Other people say they have no problem with different phone, same SIM, but big problem with iP4. > The whole thing has been blown out of all proportion by the media and > bloggers. If I paid $500 for a phone and couldn't hold it while I made calls, the media storm would seem perfectly proportionate to me. -- Pd
From: Jochem Huhmann on 18 Jul 2010 13:40 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> writes: > Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: >> Am I missing posts here, or has nobody made any comments on the press >> conference of 5 hours ago? > > Perhaps everyone was stunned at the audacity of the attempted Jedi mind > trick. "There is no problem here". They really, really should have taken lessons from the marketing for other products. Look at cool, stylish bicycles. Have you ever seen one sold with fenders and lights and other ugly accessories on it (well, at least in the US)? They could easily have turned this naked design into a full success by declaring that the iPhone 4 is the first caseless phone. As with fenderless bikes you have to be a bit careful if you use it in this form (looks and feels really cool though), but you have a wide choice of third-party parts to spruce it up to your liking. Minimal skins, robust outdoor cases, business-like black cases, mimicry cases to turn the thing visually into a Droid, whatever you want. It's called freedom! "See, already Apple offers these nice minimal bumpers in several colors. The market will follow with more innovative and good-looking cases for every need and taste. Isn't this better than buying a phone with one ugly plastic casing fixed around its antenna which you can never change or remove?" -- *This* should have been the marketing for that thing. But by what they did they actually declared this design a failure, even if they avoided the word. How silly is this? Anandtech did some tests recently and found that even a single layer of Kapton tape on the antenna improves the signal attenuation while using the dead grip to the same level as with other smartphones. This means that with a simple skin you've solved the problem. Using something like that should carry the correct message right now: http://www.gelaskins.com/store/skins/phones/iPhone_4/Keep_Calm The Jedi trick should have been: "There is no problem here. It's a feature!" Jochem -- "A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Ian McCall on 18 Jul 2010 18:03 On 2010-07-17 20:38:17 +0100, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> said: > Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote: >> One of the RSS feeds I'm on, I forget which unfortunately, think >> things point to a refresh in October. They're extrapolating from 'a >> source' and from the fact the free case offer is only until September >> 30th. It's all a bit 'start of 4th quarter' really, which again is >> typical business/manufacturing scheduling. > > Hmm. I'd like to see that report if you can dig it out. Found it: <http://9to5mac.com/node/19775> Quality of article doesn't look inspiring really. Looks better in the RSS headline than it does on the actual page... Cheers, Ian
From: Woody on 19 Jul 2010 05:15 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Heh. Yes. I find that all very frustrating because weeding out the > actual truth (in this case: do all, most or some iPhone 4s behave in a > way that will cause me problems?) is impossible. Even the more > objective > and in-depth sites seem to forget to check things properly; one phone > in > several places, or several phones in one place, but rarely several > phones in several places. I would say by your own comments that it is impossible to establish that. Although it varies, it is different fir different people. Why not just wait? They will fix it, they have to even if they truly believed that there wasn't a problem. Once something has a reputation it has it. I was still reading stories six months ago how the iPhone doesn't have cut and paste. I still read things about the newton having bad handwriting recognition Once something is established as an Internet fact, it is hard to shift. > > The bars are a lie, so why are they using > them to show that other phones suffer "the same"? What was that? The cake was a lie? -- Woody
From: Woody on 19 Jul 2010 10:07
R <me32(a)privacy.net> wrote: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> I'm trying to base it on personal experience as much as possible. > > I've >> tried several iPhone 4s, though admittedly only in two locations (but > > on >> two networks). I've tried replicating the death grip on a 3GS, and > > while >> I can do it I have to hold the phone in a way I never normally would, >> whereas I've yet to find a way to comfortably use apps one-handed > > that >> wouldn't trigger an iPhone 4 "No Signal". I could use apps two-handed >> with a changed grip but that grip will take some getting used to. > > Talking about grips, I've noticed people assuming that right-handed > people hold the phone in their right hand, so the iPhone problem is > mainly a problem for lefties. I always start a phone conversation with my left hand (I am right handed). Howeve if it is a long conversation I will swap sides, mainly as a mobile gets warm and my arm gets bored. -- Woody |