From: Sara on
In article <3mj846hob3maqskorkntr1jno1854jne6s(a)4ax.com>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:59:46 +0100, me32(a)privacy.net (R) wrote:
>
> >Now, I recall your post saying you had a problem holding it in your
> >right hand, although you are right-handed. But I've also noticed a
> >few people I know to be right-handed but who habitually hold phones
> >in their left hand. And so I'm thinking:
> >
> >(a) Why is that? Better hearing in their left ears? Right hand is the
> >"use a pen to take notes whilst calling" hand? Is it easier to dial with
> >the right hand? Was it formerly easier to dial with the right hand?
>
> I'm another righty who uses the phone with my left ear. Two reasons -
> better hearing, and old habit from seperate handpiece/dialpiece
> phones.
>
> But mostly the ear reason. Both ears test out much the same for
> frequency response, but my left does a better job of feeding the
> comprehension parts of my brain it seems.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

I'm right-handed so I hold the phone in my left hand and use my right
hand to operate the buttons and I hold it to my left ear because that's
the one nearest my left hand. Simples.

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From: bella jonez on
Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
>
> I'm right-handed so I hold the phone in my left hand and use my right
> hand to operate the buttons and I hold it to my left ear because
> that's
> the one nearest my left hand. Simples.
>

I saw owls yesterday. A couple were large. You did not need a particular
hand to operate them.
From: Bruce Horrocks on
On 19/07/2010 09:34, zoara wrote:
> You're saying that even if you deliberately try, you can't trigger the
> death grip? You can't get it to go to No Signal where the 3GS will
> continue to hold signal?

I'm sure it's something to do with the natural variance of the
electrical conductivity of the skin between different people. If you and
Zoara could both stick your fingers into a 240v socket and report your
responses, I'm sure we could compare them.

;-)

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England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
From: Jochem Huhmann on
Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> writes:

> I'm right-handed so I hold the phone in my left hand and use my right
> hand to operate the buttons and I hold it to my left ear because that's
> the one nearest my left hand. Simples.

Maybe this might help?

http://www.etsy.com/listing/51772143/antenn-aid-for-iphone-4-6-pack


Jochem

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From: zoara on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Heh. Yes. I find that all very frustrating because weeding out the
>> actual truth (in this case: do all, most or some iPhone 4s behave in
> > a
>> way that will cause me problems?) is impossible. Even the more
>> objective
>> and in-depth sites seem to forget to check things properly; one phone
>> in
>> several places, or several phones in one place, but rarely several
>> phones in several places.
>
> I would say by your own comments that it is impossible to establish
> that. Although it varies, it is different fir different people.

But that's my point. What I'm most interested in (and what has been
least tested) is whether different phones from different batches suffer
the problem to different degrees, and whether different people trigger
the problem to different degrees.

This has been tested, but badly. It's basic science done wrong;
variables aren't controlled. When Alice on the east coast and Bob on the
West are reporting different effects, is that because they are holding
it differently, because they trigger the effect at different levels,
because they are in different signal areas, or because the phones
themselves are behaving differently?

A billion bloggers won't manage to work it out between them, but if
Alice and Bob both work for a reasonably big organisation like Engadget
or Anandtech, it would make sense to get Alice and Bob - and their
phones - in the same place to suss out why they were seeing different
results.

If it turns out Alice's phone behaves differently to Bob's then there's
some manufacturing issue. If Alice has a problem with both her phone and
Bob's then different people trigger it differently.

Whichever is the case, it won't make much difference to what I do but
it's something I find frustrating; I'd like to know out of interest what
it is, but those with the resources to find out are missing the mark by
not controlling enough variables to work out what is really going on.

It's like watching someone on TV fail to solve a puzzle where you've
spotted the technique; "come on! You need to turn the blue ones upside
down! It's obvious!"


> Why not just wait?

that's what I'm doing; in practical terms I want to know whether I can
go into a shop and have a good chance of walking out with a phone that
works for me. As it stands, even if some phones misbehave worse than
others, the chance of me getting one that I find frustrating to use is
too high to bother with. I'll return a phone, or even two, if I end up
with one that works, but I'm not returning dozens on the offchance one
works better for me!


> They will fix it, they have to even if they truly
> believed that there wasn't a problem. Once something has a reputation
> it
> has it.

I suspect if they can't get it sorted with minor tweaks then it won't be
fixed until iPhone 5. A physical redesign (even a minor one) seems
unlikely to me. Perhaps some variation on this idea of spraying on a
thin plastic coating?

I'm intrigued as to why there's a September 30th deadline though. Have
they got something in the works or are they just hedging their bets that
they'll figure something out by then?

> I was still reading stories six months ago how the iPhone
> doesn't have cut and paste. I still read things about the newton
> having
> bad handwriting recognition
>
> Once something is established as an Internet fact, it is hard to
> shift.

True. Not sure whether a fix - of any kind - will shift that reputation
now, though.



>> The bars are a lie, so why are they using
>> them to show that other phones suffer "the same"?
>
> What was that? The cake was a lie?

Reference spotted ;)

-z-

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