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From: zoara on 19 Jul 2010 19:19 bella jonez <bellajonez(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> In article >> >> I'm right-handed so I hold the phone in my left hand and use my right > > >> hand to operate the buttons and I hold it to my left ear because >> that's >> the one nearest my left hand. Simples. >> > > I saw owls yesterday. A couple were large. You did not need a > particular > hand to operate them. "You're hooting it wrong". -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: zoara on 19 Jul 2010 19:19 Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > In article <3mj846hob3maqskorkntr1jno1854jne6s(a)4ax.com>, > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:59:46 +0100, me32(a)privacy.net (R) wrote: >> >>> Now, I recall your post saying you had a problem holding it in your >>> right hand, although you are right-handed. But I've also noticed a >>> few people I know to be right-handed but who habitually hold phones >>> in their left hand. And so I'm thinking: >>> >>> (a) Why is that? Better hearing in their left ears? Right hand is > > > the >>> "use a pen to take notes whilst calling" hand? Is it easier to dial > > > with >>> the right hand? Was it formerly easier to dial with the right hand? >> >> I'm another righty who uses the phone with my left ear. Two reasons - >> better hearing, and old habit from seperate handpiece/dialpiece >> phones. >> >> But mostly the ear reason. Both ears test out much the same for >> frequency response, but my left does a better job of feeding the >> comprehension parts of my brain it seems. >> >> Cheers - Jaimie > > I'm right-handed so I hold the phone in my left hand and use my right > hand to operate the buttons and I hold it to my left ear because > that's > the one nearest my left hand. Simples. Same here. Another reason I use it in my left hand while taking calls is so that I can write notes with my writing (right) hand. Part of the confusion over the "holding it wrong" thing is that there are several different ways you could be using it, all of which will involve different people using different grips. - Making a call I hold the phone in my left hand, thumb on the left side, index finger on the top right corner, pinky on the bottom right corner or along the bottom, other fingers along the right edge. This isn't a death grip. I reckon this is fairly similar to many right-handers. - using apps one-handed I put the bottom-left corner in the heel of my left hand, index finger on the back, three fingers down the right edge, and use my thumb to tap the screen. This is undoubtedly a death grip. I reckon - but am not sure - that this is a lefty grip; an injury means my right thumb isn't as flexible so I don't use it in my right hand like I assume most righties would. - using apps two-handed Edge of thumb and heel of left hand down left side, fingers down right; jabbing with right index finger. Just about a death grip but I could probably adjust this to miss the black bar. Think this is common for many righties. - typing Loosely cradle the phone in my left fingers; right fingers loosely behind those. Type with my thumbs. Almost definitely not a death grip. No idea how similar this is to anyone else. I reckon I'd be fine in all situations except one-handed app use - unfortunately that's how I use the phone the most. I wonder whether this *is* a lefty grip, and that's why most people aren't seeing a problem in normal use. I'm pretty sure that the "death grips" in the Apple ads were actually the subtly-different grip used for two-handed app use, which seems easier to avoid death-grippiness than the one-handed app use, which I simply can't work out how to do without a death grip. Maybe I have small thumbs? -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Sara Merriman on 20 Jul 2010 02:27 In article <918591657301251632.291178bellajonez-yahoo.co.uk(a)news.individual.net>, bella jonez <bellajonez(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Sara <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > In article > > > > I'm right-handed so I hold the phone in my left hand and use my right > > hand to operate the buttons and I hold it to my left ear because > > that's > > the one nearest my left hand. Simples. > > > > I saw owls yesterday. A couple were large. You did not need a particular > hand to operate them. :-) -- Sara Cuddler of rats, cats and husband
From: Sak Wathanasin on 20 Jul 2010 04:06 On 20 July, 00:19, zoara <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > This has been tested, but badly. It's basic science done wrong; > variables aren't controlled. There has been no test - all we have so far is anecdotal evidence, from a lot of people, it's true. Even if Apple were to go to expense of a large-scale global trial (and were willing to publish the results), it still wouldn't tell you whether YOU would have any trouble with it. If it's one thing we know, it's that it's extremely variable. > > Why not just wait? > > that's what I'm doing; in practical terms I want to know whether I can > go into a shop and have a good chance of walking out with a phone that > works for me. Jobs has offered a full refund, no re-stocking fee etc if returned undamaged within 30 days, so what have you got to lose? I'm not sure what you're agonizing over: just get one and see if works for you or not.
From: Woody on 20 Jul 2010 04:21
Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)nan.co.uk> wrote: > On 20 July, 00:19, zoara <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >>> Why not just wait? >> >> that's what I'm doing; in practical terms I want to know whether I > > can >> go into a shop and have a good chance of walking out with a phone > > that >> works for me. > > Jobs has offered a full refund, no re-stocking fee etc if returned > undamaged within 30 days, so what have you got to lose? I'm not sure > what you're agonizing over: just get one and see if works for you or > not. Not quote as simple as that with phones though is it, as you transfer your number to it, get a contract etc. Does the mobile company you get the phone from match that promise? Sure if you get it unlocked / sim free that works. Anyway, Zoara *likes* agonising! -- Woody |