From: Frank Bemelman on
"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> schreef in bericht
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> "ehsjr" <ehsjr(a)bellatlantic.net> schreef in bericht
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> Listen up buddy. I *NEVER* said that you should approach them
> with a "you're gonna die" attitude. I simply say - and *NOTHING*
> more - that when a situation is very grim, you should *not* tell
> them that "fighting" will improve their chances greatly.

From http://www.blochcancer.org/guide/guidesupp.htm

"Be totally honest with any discussions. Never lie or state anything that is
not a fact. For example, never say, "I know you are going to get well." You
can't possibly know that."

and

"Don't give advice on new treatments and certainly don't recommend
alternative therapies such as laetrile, macrobiotic diets, etc. No two cases
of cancer are the same. No two people are the same. Treatments, side effects
or results for one patient can be completely different for another."

Not that I need pages on Internet to know what is right/wrong, thank god I
have a
brain myself.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)


From: dagmargoodboat on
Frank Bemelman wrote:

> Right - if the chances are poor. I consider the chances of
> recovering from lung/liver cancer very poor.

He doesn't have lung or liver cancer, he has colon cancer, with
matastasies to liver and lungs. It's an important distinction, because
the cancer's behavior is determined by the cells that originally gave
rise to it. Those are the cells that have travelled and taken root,
causing new tumors elsewhere.

My g.f.'s granny had colon cancer with matastasies to her liver,
years ago, and was given 6 months to live, assuming treatment. She
preferred not to be treated, lasted three years nonetheless, and was in
decent shape for most of that.

My g.f. says her granny was a tough old bird who simply wasn't ready
to go. She was annoyed at the doctor's death sentence, and determined
to prove him wrong. She was old though--mid 80's--wearied, and passed
later, when she was darn good and ready.


<snip>

> Give hope, but not false hope.


Right. The fact is Jim's kid is in a hellua fix, however, it is also
a fact that well-supported non-stressed people recover from
standardized wounds 9 days faster than age-matched Alzheimer's
care-givers. Fearful patients going into surgery have much higher
infection rates (don't have the figures handy). Attitude makes a huge
difference.

My mom's seen it all -- she's been treating cancer patients nearly as
long as Jim's been designing electronics. She often reports that
patients who are involved in and participate in their care fare *much*
better. Often, she spots them, and knows who'll do well and who won't.
Patients who merely show up to be worked on, passively, like bringing
their car to a mechanic, don't do as well. Patients who are distraught
don't fare as well.

Why? Poorly understood, of course. Scads of hard science shows fear
and distress measureably and dramatically suppress immune function,
while prayer, meditation, and visualization improve it. Maybe that's
why. Or maybe not. But it's real.

The upshot is that Jim's kid *can* improve his chances a lot simply
by choosing to.

Heartfelt best wishes to Jim and family,

James Arthur

From: Jim Thompson on
On 3 Apr 2006 14:34:09 -0700, dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote:

[snip]
>
> The upshot is that Jim's kid *can* improve his chances a lot simply
>by choosing to.
>
> Heartfelt best wishes to Jim and family,
>
> James Arthur

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: David DiGiacomo on
In article <1144098413.584807.257510(a)v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
<dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>Fearful patients going into surgery have much higher
>infection rates (don't have the figures handy).

That's just a correlation.

As I said before, maybe the fearful patients can sense that they are
sicker than the more confident ones.

>Attitude makes a huge difference.

I don't see any basis for this conclusion in the above correlation.
What's your basis for claiming causation?

>Scads of hard science shows fear
>and distress measureably and dramatically suppress immune function ...

What's your basis for favoring this over the alternative explanation that
suppressed immune function causes fear and distress? (Or that some as-yet
unidentified factor causes both.)

Is there really a way to do a double blind study where random patients are
distressed or reassured to see how they survive surgery?
From: Fred Bloggs on


Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:08:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In some prior posts there have been inquiries regarding low distortion
>>oscillators.
>>
>>Out of curiosity I simulated a 200Hz oscillator made simply from an
>>A1A-style gyrator BP filter, then wrapped a positive feedback loop
>>around it, with back-to-back diodes used to limit the drive to the
>>input to the BP filter.
>>
>>Result: 3rd harmonic was at -58dB
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>
> Nobody has commented on the _oscillator_ ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Forget the damned oscillator. This is the book I was thinking about, a
learned cell biological theoretical basis for the power of self-healing:

The Biology Of Belief: Unleashing The Power Of Consciousness, Matter And
Miracles- Bruce Lipton

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0975991477/sr=8-1/qid=1144284664/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-8353632-7809404?%5Fencoding=UTF8

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