Ping Bil Slowman; The global warming hoax reveiled
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From: Jan Panteltje on 25 Nov 2009 06:09 On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:48:50 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote in <634df863-e735-40eb-adfe-20a8c6419dce(a)d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>: **Climate warming ice age: **�http://www.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_al3b.htm ** �http://www.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~stan/d_clim.pdf >> >Good. You should now understand what was going on during the Ice Ages >> >> Climate cycles will happen, I have always stated that we should have the = >energy sources to cope with that. >> If *if* you did read the other link's material, >> then you would understand that Europe (and the world for that matter) wil= >l look very different >> thousands of years from now, as it did thousands of years in the past. > >You need to read it a little more carefully. For "thousands of years", >substitute "millions of years". > >Continental drift isn't all that fast I was not referring to continental drift (why bring that in), but to the position of glaciers, and where the water will be. If you studied the past of the Netherlands, you would know that it was largely water, and large parts of it are now 'polders', where water was only a few hundred years ago. These days they are 'giving back areas to the water', as a safety basin to prevent flooding via the rivers elsewhere. But the glaciers, those will further retreat from Europe, and north of America, only to come back then later, in thousands of years cycles.
From: Jan Panteltje on 25 Nov 2009 06:12 On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:03:18 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote in <e8d9dfe9-9805-4503-bd9a-662f0098cc80(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>: >On Nov 24, 1:25�pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:43:51 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sl= >oman >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote in >> <be3e96e1-68fd-4366-b23d-5c7f15549...(a)t18g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >The enthusiasm of Exxon-Mobil and similar fossil-carbon extraction >> >companies for filling the media with anti-scientific propaganda aimed >> >at blocking the changes to our civilisation that will be needed to >> >prevent it's collapse (and the consequent population implosion) does >> >imply that there are a lot of rich people around exhibiting a rather >> >dangerous form pf psychopathic short-term self-interest. >> >> Hey, if it was not for Exxon-Mobil and the other energy companies, >> there would be no media, no energy, and no way to spread the ideas origin= >ating from >> your overheated globe. > >BP and Shell both have the sense to acknowledge that anthropogenic >global warming is real and both have started diversifying into more >sustainable activities. > >You don't seem to have realised the burning fossil carbon isn't the >only way to generate energy. You really are beginning to sound like an idiot nut case. After all the case I made here for nuclear power. Just admit you have no clue and are wrong.
From: Raveninghorde on 25 Nov 2009 06:31 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:55:40 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote: > >There's no point in reminding people that Ravinghorde is in conspiracy >theory heaven, reading global significance into students - presumably >undergraduates, though I'd have expected modern high school students >to be able to do better - being very bad amateur programmers. James >Arthur seesm to be equally addled, but he isn't quite as obvious about >it. Conspiracy theory heaven? Who goes on about Exon-Mobil, big oil and coal? Who keeps calling people shills of big oil? But hey since you are in to conspiracy theories explain this: http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/11/25/whos-been-spinning-in-my-newspaper.html So Briffa is a student? "; Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!" /quote From the programming file called "briffa_sep98_d.pro": yyy=reform(compmxd(*,2,1)) ;mknormal,yyy,timey,refperiod=[1881,1940] ; ; Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!! ; yrloc=[1400,findgen(19)*5.+1904] valadj=[0.,0.,0.,0.,0.,-0.1,-0.25,-0.3,0.,-0.1,0.3,0.8,1.2,1.7,2.5,2.6,2.6,$ 2.6,2.6,2.6]*0.75 ; fudge factor if n_elements(yrloc) ne n_elements(valadj) then message,'Oooops!' ; yearlyadj=interpol(valadj,yrloc,timey) /end quote
From: Bill Sloman on 25 Nov 2009 07:25 On Nov 25, 12:09 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:48:50 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman > <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote in > <634df863-e735-40eb-adfe-20a8c6419...(a)d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>: > > **Climate warming ice age: > ** http://www.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_al3b.htm > ** http://www.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~stan/d_clim.pdf > > >> >Good. You should now understand what was going on during the Ice Ages > > >> Climate cycles will happen, I have always stated that we should have the = > >energy sources to cope with that. > >> If *if* you did read the other link's material, > >> then you would understand that Europe (and the world for that matter) wil= > >l look very different > >> thousands of years from now, as it did thousands of years in the past. > > >You need to read it a little more carefully. For "thousands of years", > >substitute "millions of years". > > >Continental drift isn't all that fast > > I was not referring to continental drift (why bring that in), but to the position of > glaciers, and where the water will be. > If you studied the past of the Netherlands, you would know that it was largely water, > and large parts of it are now 'polders', where water was only a few hundred years ago. Not so much water as swamp. The polders are now below sea level because the land dried out after it was empoldered, and shrank. > These days they are 'giving back areas to the water', as a safety basin to prevent > flooding via the rivers elsewhere. Very sensible, even if the farmers hate it. > But the glaciers, those will further retreat from Europe, and north of America, > only to come back then later, in thousands of years cycles. Since we've messed up the positive feedback that drove that cycle and added more than enough CO2 and methane to the atmosphere, the glacier aren't going to be coming back any time soon. The shapes and locations ofof the continents will still be pretty much the same. I doubt if the world will look that different. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Bill Sloman on 25 Nov 2009 07:31
On Nov 25, 12:00 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:36:08 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman > <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote in > <1fc4cb23-4899-43a0-b863-117f62eae...(a)s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>: > > >Gypsum, geothermal heating and damage does pick it up twice on the > >first page, so Joerg should have been able to find it. It was his > >fact, not mine, and his responsibility to validate it. > > If I say 'cookie', do I need to supply a wikipedia reference it exists? Google writes a tracking cookie to your computer whenever you do a search, so you don't have to bother. > >> And, that is not the only case that exists. > >> There was a more recent one IIRC. > > >> The only urban legend here is that you think you can change climate cycle= > >s by posting > less about global warming. > >> Or was it more? > >> I think less, because that saves energy, CO2, so get on with it! > > >I'm not per se interested in changing the climate cycles, I'm > >interested in getting people to think, which - if it worked - might > >get them to think sensibly about anthropogenic global warming, amongst > >other topics. > > Sensibly thinking about it leads to the insight that the anthropogenic component is insignificant in the view of the big climate cycles. Sorry. That is insensible non-thinking, otherwise known as wishful thinking. I think you'd better think it out again, after you've learned a bit more about greenhouse gases and how they work. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen |