From: Joel Koltner on 24 Nov 2009 14:55 "Robert Latest" <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7n2nmtF3jg6u0U1(a)mid.uni-berlin.de... > He's a rotten thinker. He drools on and on about how new fossil fuel > reserves are discovered, yet he never realizes that they are limited > ressources which the industrialized nations are exploiting at the > expense of the less developed world and generations to come. It's not quite that clear cut: At any limited resource becomes more scarce there will naturally be research into alternatives. If we come up with a really good, safe, and clean alternative to fossil fuels in the next 50 years rather than, say, 250 years from now, those 200 intervening years of a cleaner environment are surely worth something, yes? Of course, I'm assuming that our clever monkey brains will be able to discover those alternatives (and that they exist in the first place). Not everyone agrees with that...
From: Jim Thompson on 24 Nov 2009 15:00 On 24 Nov 2009 18:41:33 GMT, Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> >> George is, as usual, dead on target here: >> >> http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/will112209.php3 >> >> He's the best public thinker I know of. > >He's a rotten thinker. He drools on and on about how new fossil fuel >reserves are discovered, yet he never realizes that they are limited >ressources which the industrialized nations are exploiting at the >expense of the less developed world and generations to come. > >Then, of course, this seems to be a religious website. Probably a good >place to publish stories about Unlimited Fossil Fuel. > >robert Ah, yes, Robert Latest. I had forgotten he even existed, then Joel Koltner had to go and feed him :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
From: dagmargoodboat on 24 Nov 2009 15:24 On Nov 24, 2:55 pm, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "Robert Latest" <boblat...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:7n2nmtF3jg6u0U1(a)mid.uni-berlin.de... > > > He's a rotten thinker. He drools on and on about how new fossil fuel > > reserves are discovered, yet he never realizes that they are limited > > ressources which the industrialized nations are exploiting at the > > expense of the less developed world and generations to come. > > It's not quite that clear cut: At any limited resource becomes more scarce > there will naturally be research into alternatives. If we come up with a > really good, safe, and clean alternative to fossil fuels in the next 50 years > rather than, say, 250 years from now, those 200 intervening years of a cleaner > environment are surely worth something, yes? > > Of course, I'm assuming that our clever monkey brains will be able to discover > those alternatives (and that they exist in the first place). Not everyone > agrees with that... Conserve. That means using more efficient devices (e.g. replacing T12 fluorescents with T8s), and using them more wisely (e.g. turning off Al Gore's lights when he's not home). That's possible, with zero technical risk, and perhaps 40-50% payback. -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: Raveninghorde on 24 Nov 2009 15:37 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:30:00 +0000, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote: and this: http://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/2009/11/data-horribilis-harryreadmetxt-file.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDevilsKitchen+%28The+Devil%27s+Kitchen%29&utm_content=Netvibes
From: Jan Panteltje on 24 Nov 2009 15:47
On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:55:33 -0800) it happened "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote in <WSWOm.236734$8m4.184475(a)en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com>: >"Robert Latest" <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:7n2nmtF3jg6u0U1(a)mid.uni-berlin.de... >> He's a rotten thinker. He drools on and on about how new fossil fuel >> reserves are discovered, yet he never realizes that they are limited >> ressources which the industrialized nations are exploiting at the >> expense of the less developed world and generations to come. > >It's not quite that clear cut: At any limited resource becomes more scarce >there will naturally be research into alternatives. If we come up with a >really good, safe, and clean alternative to fossil fuels in the next 50 years >rather than, say, 250 years from now, those 200 intervening years of a cleaner >environment are surely worth something, yes? > >Of course, I'm assuming that our clever monkey brains will be able to discover >those alternatives (and that they exist in the first place). Not everyone >agrees with that... For example: http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/24/osmotic-power-debuts-in-norway/ 2kW so far, but can be bigger. |