From: Bill Sloman on
On Nov 25, 12:31 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:55:40 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >There's no point in reminding people that Ravinghorde is in conspiracy
> >theory heaven, reading global significance into students - presumably
> >undergraduates, though I'd have expected modern high school students
> >to be able to do better - being very bad amateur programmers. James
> >Arthur seesm to be equally addled, but he isn't quite as obvious about
> >it.
>
> Conspiracy theory heaven?
>
> Who goes on about Exon-Mobil, big oil and coal? Who keeps calling
> people shills of big oil?

The British Royal Society, amonst others

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/sep/20/oilandpetrol.business

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Exxon-Funded_Skeptics

http://exxonsecrets.org/html/listorganizations.php

Exxonsecrets is based on data extracted from their published accounts
- under US Law they have to list the organisations that they are
funding.

You should recognise at least some of the names since you quote their
output with tedious regularity.

> But hey since you are in to conspiracy theories explain this:
>
> http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/11/25/whos-been-spinning-...
>
> So Briffa is a student? "; Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for
> decline!!"
>
> /quote
>
> From the programming file called "briffa_sep98_d.pro":
>
> yyy=reform(compmxd(*,2,1))
> ;mknormal,yyy,timey,refperiod=[1881,1940]
> ;
> ; Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!
> ;
> yrloc=[1400,findgen(19)*5.+1904]
> valadj=[0.,0.,0.,0.,0.,-0.1,-0.25,-0.3,0.,-0.1,0.3,0.8,1.2,1.7,2.5,2.6,2.6,­$
> 2.6,2.6,2.6]*0.75 ; fudge factor
> if n_elements(yrloc) ne n_elements(valadj) then message,'Oooops!'
> ;
> yearlyadj=interpol(valadj,yrloc,timey)
>
> /end quote

Why should I? I've got no idea what he was trying to do or why - and
neither would you, if you weren't in the habit of imputing the worst
possible motives to everybody who doesn't share your daft delusions.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

From: Bill Sloman on
On Nov 25, 10:57 am, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:26:54 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> SNIP
>
> Paranoid Bill, the Soros shill, you'll enjoy this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk&feature=player_embedded

I wasn't sufficiently interested to turn up the audio.

And which of your daft conspiracy theories includes George Soros? And
why?

http://www.politicaltruthandfact.com/nbishop/2008/02/the-george-soro.html

does suggest that the demented right wing in the USA resents his
campaign contributions to at least one Democratic candidate, but I
hadn't noticed that you were out of touch wth reality along that axis
as well.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Bill Sloman on
On Nov 25, 12:12 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:03:18 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman
> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote in
> <e8d9dfe9-9805-4503-bd9a-662f0098c...(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 24, 1:25 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:43:51 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sl=
> >oman
> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote in
> >> <be3e96e1-68fd-4366-b23d-5c7f15549...(a)t18g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> >The enthusiasm of Exxon-Mobil and similar fossil-carbon extraction
> >> >companies for filling the media with anti-scientific propaganda aimed
> >> >at blocking the changes to our civilisation that will be needed to
> >> >prevent it's collapse (and the consequent population implosion) does
> >> >imply that there are a lot of rich people around exhibiting a rather
> >> >dangerous form pf psychopathic short-term self-interest.
>
> >> Hey, if it was not for Exxon-Mobil and the other energy companies,
> >> there would be no media, no energy, and no way to spread the ideas origin=
> >> ating from your overheated globe.
>
> >BP and Shell both have the sense to acknowledge that anthropogenic
> >global warming is real and both have started diversifying into more
> >sustainable activities.
>
> >You don't seem to have realised the burning fossil carbon isn't the
> >only way to generate energy.
>
> You really are beginning to sound like an idiot nut case.
> After all the case I made here for nuclear power.

The French genenrate most of their electric power from nuclear
reactors and yet you claimed

> >> Hey, if it was not for Exxon-Mobil and the other energy companies,
> >> there would be no media, no energy,

Just admit you have no clue and are wrong.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: dagmargoodboat on
On Nov 24, 10:55 pm, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 1:03 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 3:37 pm, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:30:00 +0000, Raveninghorde
>
> > > <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
>
> > > and this:
>
> > >http://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/2009/11/data-horribilis-harryreadmetxt....
>
> > OMG, that's rich.  Try searching the HARRY_READ_ME.TXT file
>
> >    http://www.anenglishmanscastle.com/HARRY_READ_ME.txt
>
> >  for "cloud."  (Clouds' influence on insolation is ~10^2 greater than
> > the AGW hypothesized from CO2.)
>
> > A few years ago I downloaded and read some of the FORTRAN code for one
> > of the models.
>
> > What trash.
>
> This from a nitwit who doesn't know the difference between a weather
> model - which is susceptible to the butterfly effect - and a climate
> modoel - which isn't.

That sure came out of the blue. No one mentioned "weather"--we're
talking about precious, lovely, highly-touted G-lobal C-limate M-
odels. Or are you saying that cloud feedback doesn't affect climate?

Whatever.

Hey Bill, since you think people should be jailed for not buying
health insurance for themselves, what firing squad would you recommend
for "gross coding negligence and fraud jeopardizing the climate and
economy of the entire world?"

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
From: Raveninghorde on
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:55:19 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote:

>On Nov 25, 10:57�am, Raveninghorde <raveninghorde(a)invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:26:54 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>>
>> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> SNIP
>>
>> Paranoid Bill, the Soros shill, you'll enjoy this:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk&feature=player_embedded
>
>I wasn't sufficiently interested to turn up the audio.
>
>And which of your daft conspiracy theories includes George Soros? And
>why?
>
>http://www.politicaltruthandfact.com/nbishop/2008/02/the-george-soro.html
>
>does suggest that the demented right wing in the USA resents his
>campaign contributions to at least one Democratic candidate, but I
>hadn't noticed that you were out of touch wth reality along that axis
>as well.

Wake up and smell the coffee. You're dancing to the Soros tune.

So if sourcewatch isn't just a leftist/commie site to denounce
unbelievers they will have a file on Soros.

Soros is playing big in climate change. For example:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aMU3BkV3yqPU

/quote

Billionaire George Soros, looking to address the �political problem�
of climate change, said he will invest $1 billion in clean-energy
technology and create an organization to advise policy makers on
environmental issues.

/end quote

And he is linked to realclimate.org home of Mann and Schmidt as well
as funding Hansen. For example:

/quote

Domain ID:D105219760-LROR
Domain Name:REALCLIMATE.ORG
Created On:19-Nov-2004 16:39:03 UTC
Last Updated On:30-Oct-2005 21:10:46 UTC
Expiration Date:19-Nov-2007 16:39:03 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:B133AE74B8066012
Registrant Name:Betsy Ensley
Registrant Organization:Environmental Media Services
Registrant Street1:1320 18th St, NW
Registrant Street2:5th Floor
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Washington
Registrant State/Province:DC
Registrant Postal Code:20036
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2024636670

Additional Details
Here is the ZoomInfo on Betsy:

# Betsy Ensley, Web Editor/Program Coordinator: Betsy joined the staff
of EMS in April 2002 as a program assistant for EMS's toxics program.
Presently, she manages BushGreenwatch.org, a joint EMS-MoveOn.org
public awareness website, and coordinates environmental community
media efforts to protect and improve environmental and public health
safeguards. Before coming to EMS, Betsy interned at the U.S.
Department of State in the office of the Assistant Secretary, Bureau
of Educational and Cultural Affairs. Betsy graduated with honors from
the University of Iowa in 2000, where she majored in Global Studies
with thematic focus on war, peace and security. She minored in Asian
languages.

It looks like part of Betsy's salary is paid by MoveOn.org who is
funded by George Soros.

/end quote