From: Michael A. Terrell on 25 Nov 2009 15:40 John Larkin wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:13:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje > <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >On a sunny day (Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:59:29 -0800) it happened Rich Grise > ><richgrise(a)example.net> wrote in <pan.2009.11.25.16.59.25.64076(a)example.net>: > > > >>Not to mention that the warming cycles PRECEDE the elevations in CO2 > >>levels. This is pretty obvious, when you consider that cold water can hold > >>more CO2 in solution than warm water can. > >> > >>But Bill has faith, which trumps facts, like this inconvenient one: > >>http://www.infowars.com/al-gore-admits-co2-does-not-cause-majority-of-global-warming/ > >> > >>Cheers! > >>Rich > > > >Gore should be locked up. > > He's done an excellent job of turning off Sloman's mind. That was a 30 second job. What else has he done? -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
From: Malcolm Moore on 25 Nov 2009 19:23 On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:25:27 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Nov 25, 7:59 am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote: >> The French genenrate most of their electric power from nuclear >> reactors and yet you claimed >> >> > >> Hey, if it was not for Exxon-Mobil and the other energy companies, >> > >> there would be no media, no energy, >> >> Just admit you have no clue and are wrong. > > >Okay boys and girls, FWIW let's whip out the calculator and fact-check >the authoritative Mr. Bill: > >France produces > 447e12 watt-hours of electricity annually, and consumes > 1.99 x 10e6 bbl of petroleum (37MJ/L) per day, plus > 49.27e9 m^3 of natural gas (36.4 MJ/m^3) >(CIA factbook) > >How much energy is in that oil? > >1.99e6 bbl/day * 365 days = 726e6 bbl/year, > x 159L/bbl = 115e9 L/year > x 37MJ / L = 4.27e18 J/year. > >Doing the same for natural gas, we get: > >(view table in fixed font) >FOSSIL FUELS > natural gas: 1.79 x 10^18 J > petroleum: 4.27 x 10^18 J > -------------- > Subtotal: 6.06 x 10^18 J > >ELECTRICAL > Total > electricity: 1.61 x 10^18 J > (nuclear): 1.29 x 10^18 J > >TOTAL FOSSIL+NUCLEAR > 7.35 x 10^18 J > > >So, France gets 18% of its energy from nukes, 82% from FOSSIL fuels. Comprehension has obviously never been your best skill! Bill clearly stated; "The French genenrate most of their electric power from nuclear reactors and yet you claimed" Note the words ELECTRIC power. You've used the CIA figures for total fossil fuels, which includes that used for transportation, heating, industrial processes etc. The Wikipedia page for Nuclear Power in France states; "In France, as of 2002[update], �lectricit� de France (EDF) � the country's main electricity generation and distribution company � manages the country's 58 nuclear power plants. As of 2008[update], these plants produce 90% of both EDF's and France's electrical power production (of which much is exported),[1] making EDF the world leader in production of nuclear power by percentage. In 2004, 425.8 TWh out of the country's total production of 540.6 TWh was from nuclear power (78.8%)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France Shame about all those wasted calculations you went through. Bill's post was authoritative. -- Regards Malcolm Remove sharp objects to get a valid e-mail address
From: John Larkin on 25 Nov 2009 20:46 On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:59:25 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Bill Sloman wrote: >> You live in Oregon. Here is a web site that gives the locations of >> potentially active volcanoes in your state. >> >> http://www.nationalatlas.gov/dynamic/dyn_vol-or.html >> >> I'd suggest that if you are worried by potential sources of danger >> under your feet, you should pack up and move to Barendrecht >> immediately. >> >> http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences/five-worst-volcanic-disasters-in-history/ >> > >I live in Northern California, about 35 miles east of Sacramento. And I >am rather unafraid of volcanos, earthquakes and fires versus some >"grand" ideas of man to "solve" a perceived crisis. > Listen up, Joerg. If Sloman says you live in Oregon, you live in Oregon. It's a peer-reviewed fact. John
From: Jamie on 25 Nov 2009 21:12 John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:59:25 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > > >>Bill Sloman wrote: > > >>>You live in Oregon. Here is a web site that gives the locations of >>>potentially active volcanoes in your state. >>> >>>http://www.nationalatlas.gov/dynamic/dyn_vol-or.html >>> >>>I'd suggest that if you are worried by potential sources of danger >>>under your feet, you should pack up and move to Barendrecht >>>immediately. >>> >>>http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences/five-worst-volcanic-disasters-in-history/ >>> >> >>I live in Northern California, about 35 miles east of Sacramento. And I >>am rather unafraid of volcanos, earthquakes and fires versus some >>"grand" ideas of man to "solve" a perceived crisis. >> > > > > Listen up, Joerg. If Sloman says you live in Oregon, you live in > Oregon. It's a peer-reviewed fact. > > John > Nice to see that Slowman has decreed a format that every one can understand. Although, I doubt that all will fuzzy warm feelings about! :)
From: Joerg on 25 Nov 2009 21:11
John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:59:25 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Bill Sloman wrote: > >>> You live in Oregon. Here is a web site that gives the locations of >>> potentially active volcanoes in your state. >>> >>> http://www.nationalatlas.gov/dynamic/dyn_vol-or.html >>> >>> I'd suggest that if you are worried by potential sources of danger >>> under your feet, you should pack up and move to Barendrecht >>> immediately. >>> >>> http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences/five-worst-volcanic-disasters-in-history/ >>> >> I live in Northern California, about 35 miles east of Sacramento. And I >> am rather unafraid of volcanos, earthquakes and fires versus some >> "grand" ideas of man to "solve" a perceived crisis. >> > > > Listen up, Joerg. If Sloman says you live in Oregon, you live in > Oregon. It's a peer-reviewed fact. > What I was told before I married my sweetheart: If the father-in-law says that the water runs up the drain then it does run up the drain. But he turned out to be a fun guy. Wish he was still around. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |