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From: Martin Brown on 14 Oct 2009 12:35 John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:48:15 +0100, Martin Brown > <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> I agree that in the USA there is about 30% of the population determined >> to stuff themselves silly until they get type II diabetes, their knees >> and hips disintegrate. But that is fundamentally a problem of too much >> junk food and not enough exercise. A national health system encouraging >> better diet might actually decrease these costs. The existing private >> one doesn't care so long as the punters are insured and profitable. > > Britain and even France are seeing increasing levels of obesity. Look True enough. Wherever the US junk food diet is exported (even Japan) obesity rapidly increases. McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken being the worst offenders. Highly processed unhealthy food is far too common. And it tends to be the poorer members of society that eat the most junk food - it is after all the cheapest mass produced food. > it up. In the US, we have a large minority population that, I think, > is poorly adapted to the european-type diet full of wheat, meat, > sugar, and dairy products. Pacific Islanders and native Americans seem > most affected - rampant overweight and diabetes - and Africans too. But in the USA it is also the enormous portions of food at the popular restaurants that plays a part in supersizing the population. > The US policy of keeping up sugar prices hurts too, since corn syrup > is probably worse for health than real sugar. High fructose corn syrup is a pretty nasty concoction. It would not surprise me at all if it were implicated in causing diabetes. Regards, Martin Brown
From: John Larkin on 14 Oct 2009 14:03 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0100, Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:48:15 +0100, Martin Brown >> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> I agree that in the USA there is about 30% of the population determined >>> to stuff themselves silly until they get type II diabetes, their knees >>> and hips disintegrate. But that is fundamentally a problem of too much >>> junk food and not enough exercise. A national health system encouraging >>> better diet might actually decrease these costs. The existing private >>> one doesn't care so long as the punters are insured and profitable. >> >> Britain and even France are seeing increasing levels of obesity. Look > >True enough. Wherever the US junk food diet is exported (even Japan) >obesity rapidly increases. McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken being >the worst offenders. Highly processed unhealthy food is far too common. > >And it tends to be the poorer members of society that eat the most junk >food - it is after all the cheapest mass produced food. > >> it up. In the US, we have a large minority population that, I think, >> is poorly adapted to the european-type diet full of wheat, meat, >> sugar, and dairy products. Pacific Islanders and native Americans seem >> most affected - rampant overweight and diabetes - and Africans too. > >But in the USA it is also the enormous portions of food at the popular >restaurants that plays a part in supersizing the population. It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. I take the leftovers to go. I get two or three meals from one restaurant serving. Two or three meals from a $7 entree is a pretty good deal, and it avoids cooking some week-nights. I do recall a prix-fixe meal at Paul Bocuse' place that was overwhelming, and I couldn't take it home. And not $9. Last time I was in the UK, a couple of years ago, I met a lot of fat engineers. John
From: dagmargoodboat on 14 Oct 2009 15:12 On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0100, Martin Brown wrote: > >But in the USA it is also the enormous portions of food at the popular > >restaurants that plays a part in supersizing the population. > > It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. That ought not be allowed. The government should only allow people to eat at certain approved restaurants, and dictate and carefully control what those restaurants serve, the portion sizes that will be allowed-- according to each person's needs vis-a-vis calories, obesity, health factors, etc.--the prices that can be charged, adjusted for each person's ability to pay, and so forth. Violators should be fined and jailed. Oh, wait, that's the healthcare bill that just passed the Senate finance committee. Never mind. -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: John Larkin on 14 Oct 2009 15:37 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:03 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0100, Martin Brown wrote: > >> >But in the USA it is also the enormous portions of food at the popular >> >restaurants that plays a part in supersizing the population. >> >> It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. > >That ought not be allowed. The government should only allow people to >eat at certain approved restaurants, and dictate and carefully control >what those restaurants serve, the portion sizes that will be allowed-- >according to each person's needs vis-a-vis calories, obesity, health >factors, etc.--the prices that can be charged, adjusted for each >person's ability to pay, and so forth. Violators should be fined and >jailed. Sounds like the ration books in Cuba. They keep everybody trim. John
From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on 14 Oct 2009 16:04
John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:03 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com > wrote: > > >>On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, John Larkin wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0100, Martin Brown wrote: >> >>>>But in the USA it is also the enormous portions of food at the popular >>>>restaurants that plays a part in supersizing the population. >>> >>>It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. >> >>That ought not be allowed. The government should only allow people to >>eat at certain approved restaurants, and dictate and carefully control >>what those restaurants serve, the portion sizes that will be allowed-- >>according to each person's needs vis-a-vis calories, obesity, health >>factors, etc.--the prices that can be charged, adjusted for each >>person's ability to pay, and so forth. Violators should be fined and >>jailed. > > > Sounds like the ration books in Cuba. They keep everybody trim. What do you think is the next year census for? The resemblance of the recent events in USA and the downfall of the USSR is just plain scarry. Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant http://www.abvolt.com |