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From: krw on 18 Oct 2009 14:13 On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: >Joerg wrote: > >> Baron wrote: >>> Joerg wrote: >>> >>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0100, Martin Brown >>>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>> I, like lots of people, like large servings. I eat a third or >>>>>>> maybe half and take the rest to go. That's probably a consequence >>>>>>> of the actual cost of food being a minor component of the >>>>>>> restaurant's total costs. >>>>>> I guess you are right. It may be a cultural thing but doggie bags >>>>>> have a distinct yuck factor for us Europeans. I can't really think >>>>>> of anything worse than taking away well cooked uneaten restaurant >>>>>> food and then warming it up later in the week. I have sometimes >>>>>> done it in the US since it offends me to see so much food go to >>>>>> waste. >>>>> It's very common in the US. It use to be considered a bit >>>>> tasteless, but no more. >>>>> >>>> All those travel guides from the 70's and 80's for foreigners said >>>> it was perfectly normal even back then. Except they were really >>>> called "doggie bags" whereas nowadays nobody seems to use that word >>>> anymore. The guides often also mentioned that proof of dog ownership >>>> is not required ;-) >>>> >>>> Now it's more "Can I get this bagged?" or "Could I have a bag?". >>>> Mostly the waitress will ask when seeing a lot of the good stuff >>>> left on a plate, at least out here. >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>> >>> First time I visited the US, I found it very strange to be given a >>> bag >>> of food left over. I initially thought that it was the restaurants >>> way of getting rid of the waste food so they didn't have to manage >>> the costs of disposal. >>> >> >> Well, but what do you guys do at home with leftover food? Throw it all >> away? That would seem quite wasteful. > >I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks >for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day. >Very little waste at all nowadays. Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily. Packages of chicken or hamburgers get split up and frozen before cooking. Steaks are bought sized for two. Ground meat is bought in sizes to cook, though a lot of those meals are either refrozen (e.g. spaghetti sauce, chili) or reheated. >> We have neighbors who throw every leftover away. It makes me sad, >> considering that some families in Africa don't know where tomorrow's >> meals are going to come from. >> >Next door neighbour adds their food waste to feed the two dogs they own. Two schools of thought on that one. >But I do agree that an enormous amount of food is wasted nationally. >You only have to look at the dumpsters at the back of the local >supermarket ! Chock full of unsold foodstuff, just getting landfilled. Blame your local weenies. They landfill it because if they gave it away the liability would be enormous. It's not good enough for the buying public so "the poor" shouldn't be force to eat it, or so goes the "logic".
From: Baron on 18 Oct 2009 15:59 krw wrote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron > <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > >>Joerg wrote: >> >>> Baron wrote: >>>> Joerg wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0100, Martin Brown >>>>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>>>> I, like lots of people, like large servings. I eat a third or >>>>>>>> maybe half and take the rest to go. That's probably a >>>>>>>> consequence of the actual cost of food being a minor component >>>>>>>> of the restaurant's total costs. >>>>>>> I guess you are right. It may be a cultural thing but doggie >>>>>>> bags have a distinct yuck factor for us Europeans. I can't >>>>>>> really think of anything worse than taking away well cooked >>>>>>> uneaten restaurant food and then warming it up later in the >>>>>>> week. I have sometimes done it in the US since it offends me to >>>>>>> see so much food go to waste. >>>>>> It's very common in the US. It use to be considered a bit >>>>>> tasteless, but no more. >>>>>> >>>>> All those travel guides from the 70's and 80's for foreigners said >>>>> it was perfectly normal even back then. Except they were really >>>>> called "doggie bags" whereas nowadays nobody seems to use that >>>>> word anymore. The guides often also mentioned that proof of dog >>>>> ownership is not required ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Now it's more "Can I get this bagged?" or "Could I have a bag?". >>>>> Mostly the waitress will ask when seeing a lot of the good stuff >>>>> left on a plate, at least out here. >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>> >>>> First time I visited the US, I found it very strange to be given a >>>> bag >>>> of food left over. I initially thought that it was the restaurants >>>> way of getting rid of the waste food so they didn't have to manage >>>> the costs of disposal. >>>> >>> >>> Well, but what do you guys do at home with leftover food? Throw it >>> all away? That would seem quite wasteful. >> >>I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still >>cooks for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another >>day. Very little waste at all nowadays. > > Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily. > Packages of chicken or hamburgers get split up and frozen before > cooking. Steaks are bought sized for two. Ground meat is bought in > sizes to cook, though a lot of those meals are either refrozen (e.g. > spaghetti sauce, chili) or reheated. > >>> We have neighbors who throw every leftover away. It makes me sad, >>> considering that some families in Africa don't know where tomorrow's >>> meals are going to come from. >>> >>Next door neighbour adds their food waste to feed the two dogs they >>own. > > Two schools of thought on that one. > >>But I do agree that an enormous amount of food is wasted nationally. >>You only have to look at the dumpsters at the back of the local >>supermarket ! Chock full of unsold foodstuff, just getting >>landfilled. > > Blame your local weenies. They landfill it because if they gave it > away the liability would be enormous. It's not good enough for the > buying public so "the poor" shouldn't be force to eat it, or so goes > the "logic". Its very wrong I agree ! When I was a rug rat, folks would go into the fields after the potato, pea and turnip harvest, and collect the food left on the ground. Probably without the farmers blessing. Today the farmer would simply plough the crop back into the ground and go collect the subsidy ! -- Best Regards: Baron.
From: Joerg on 18 Oct 2009 17:11 krw wrote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron > <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > >> Joerg wrote: >> >>> Baron wrote: >>>> Joerg wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0100, Martin Brown >>>>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>>>> I, like lots of people, like large servings. I eat a third or >>>>>>>> maybe half and take the rest to go. That's probably a consequence >>>>>>>> of the actual cost of food being a minor component of the >>>>>>>> restaurant's total costs. >>>>>>> I guess you are right. It may be a cultural thing but doggie bags >>>>>>> have a distinct yuck factor for us Europeans. I can't really think >>>>>>> of anything worse than taking away well cooked uneaten restaurant >>>>>>> food and then warming it up later in the week. I have sometimes >>>>>>> done it in the US since it offends me to see so much food go to >>>>>>> waste. >>>>>> It's very common in the US. It use to be considered a bit >>>>>> tasteless, but no more. >>>>>> >>>>> All those travel guides from the 70's and 80's for foreigners said >>>>> it was perfectly normal even back then. Except they were really >>>>> called "doggie bags" whereas nowadays nobody seems to use that word >>>>> anymore. The guides often also mentioned that proof of dog ownership >>>>> is not required ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Now it's more "Can I get this bagged?" or "Could I have a bag?". >>>>> Mostly the waitress will ask when seeing a lot of the good stuff >>>>> left on a plate, at least out here. >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>> First time I visited the US, I found it very strange to be given a >>>> bag >>>> of food left over. I initially thought that it was the restaurants >>>> way of getting rid of the waste food so they didn't have to manage >>>> the costs of disposal. >>>> >>> Well, but what do you guys do at home with leftover food? Throw it all >>> away? That would seem quite wasteful. >> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks >> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day. >> Very little waste at all nowadays. > > Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily. > Packages of chicken or hamburgers ... Packages? Euww. <boast_mode> I can proudly proclaim that we have never bought pre-pressed patties of any sort, it's all done from scratch. </boast_mode> > ... get split up and frozen before > cooking. Steaks are bought sized for two. Ground meat is bought in > sizes to cook, though a lot of those meals are either refrozen (e.g. > spaghetti sauce, chili) or reheated. > >>> We have neighbors who throw every leftover away. It makes me sad, >>> considering that some families in Africa don't know where tomorrow's >>> meals are going to come from. >>> >> Next door neighbour adds their food waste to feed the two dogs they own. > > Two schools of thought on that one. > It's not good for the dogs. We never do that, and now we've got three. >> But I do agree that an enormous amount of food is wasted nationally. >> You only have to look at the dumpsters at the back of the local >> supermarket ! Chock full of unsold foodstuff, just getting landfilled. > > Blame your local weenies. They landfill it because if they gave it > away the liability would be enormous. It's not good enough for the > buying public so "the poor" shouldn't be force to eat it, or so goes > the "logic". Yep, tort law is a huge problem in our country. But at least our food bank goes out and picks up stuff from stores where they can see that it won't sell by an expiration date. Plus fruits and vegetables from gardens of congregation members, and that's the best stuff you can get. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Spehro Pefhany on 18 Oct 2009 18:24 On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: ><boast_mode> >I can proudly proclaim that we have never bought pre-pressed patties of >any sort, it's all done from scratch. ></boast_mode> We get *fresh* (never frozen, unpackaged) patties made up with spices and such.. they're a great time saver.. good stuff like blue cheese in there. Same with fresh already-marinated kebabs and lean boneless chicken breasts. Just toss on the barbie.. or Jennair grill if it's too unpleasant outside. I'm not sure it isn't more economical than the Williams-Sonoma $rubs$ + plain meat from the butcher. The frozen stuff in the fancy boxes isn't as good, but the pricier President's Choice types are not bad-- certainly handy for teenager feeding time if a hungry pack of them is prowling around.
From: krw on 18 Oct 2009 20:42
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw wrote: >> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron >> <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: >> >>> Joerg wrote: >>> >>>> Baron wrote: >>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0100, Martin Brown >>>>>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I, like lots of people, like large servings. I eat a third or >>>>>>>>> maybe half and take the rest to go. That's probably a consequence >>>>>>>>> of the actual cost of food being a minor component of the >>>>>>>>> restaurant's total costs. >>>>>>>> I guess you are right. It may be a cultural thing but doggie bags >>>>>>>> have a distinct yuck factor for us Europeans. I can't really think >>>>>>>> of anything worse than taking away well cooked uneaten restaurant >>>>>>>> food and then warming it up later in the week. I have sometimes >>>>>>>> done it in the US since it offends me to see so much food go to >>>>>>>> waste. >>>>>>> It's very common in the US. It use to be considered a bit >>>>>>> tasteless, but no more. >>>>>>> >>>>>> All those travel guides from the 70's and 80's for foreigners said >>>>>> it was perfectly normal even back then. Except they were really >>>>>> called "doggie bags" whereas nowadays nobody seems to use that word >>>>>> anymore. The guides often also mentioned that proof of dog ownership >>>>>> is not required ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Now it's more "Can I get this bagged?" or "Could I have a bag?". >>>>>> Mostly the waitress will ask when seeing a lot of the good stuff >>>>>> left on a plate, at least out here. >>>>>> >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>> First time I visited the US, I found it very strange to be given a >>>>> bag >>>>> of food left over. I initially thought that it was the restaurants >>>>> way of getting rid of the waste food so they didn't have to manage >>>>> the costs of disposal. >>>>> >>>> Well, but what do you guys do at home with leftover food? Throw it all >>>> away? That would seem quite wasteful. >>> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks >>> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day. >>> Very little waste at all nowadays. >> >> Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily. >> Packages of chicken or hamburgers ... > > >Packages? Euww. Yes, we don't grow our own chickens. ;-) Hamburgers we buy in patties because the beef is better than we can buy otherwise and they cook and hold together better than home made. ><boast_mode> >I can proudly proclaim that we have never bought pre-pressed patties of >any sort, it's all done from scratch. ></boast_mode> > > >> ... get split up and frozen before >> cooking. Steaks are bought sized for two. Ground meat is bought in >> sizes to cook, though a lot of those meals are either refrozen (e.g. >> spaghetti sauce, chili) or reheated. >> >>>> We have neighbors who throw every leftover away. It makes me sad, >>>> considering that some families in Africa don't know where tomorrow's >>>> meals are going to come from. >>>> >>> Next door neighbour adds their food waste to feed the two dogs they own. >> >> Two schools of thought on that one. >> > >It's not good for the dogs. We never do that, and now we've got three. The other school of thought is that dogs (not cats) have eaten human scraps since they were domesticated (likely the reason they were domesticated was that they hung around humans, eating their waste). Personally, I'm with you. The "cereals" today are much better for dogs. >>> But I do agree that an enormous amount of food is wasted nationally. >>> You only have to look at the dumpsters at the back of the local >>> supermarket ! Chock full of unsold foodstuff, just getting landfilled. >> >> Blame your local weenies. They landfill it because if they gave it >> away the liability would be enormous. It's not good enough for the >> buying public so "the poor" shouldn't be force to eat it, or so goes >> the "logic". > > >Yep, tort law is a huge problem in our country. But at least our food >bank goes out and picks up stuff from stores where they can see that it >won't sell by an expiration date. Plus fruits and vegetables from >gardens of congregation members, and that's the best stuff you can get. Wait until weenie lawyer gets done with your parishioners. |