From: Joerg on 17 Oct 2009 20:25 Spehro Pefhany wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:03:12 -0700, John Larkin > <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0100, Martin Brown >> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:48:15 +0100, Martin Brown >>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree that in the USA there is about 30% of the population determined >>>>> to stuff themselves silly until they get type II diabetes, their knees >>>>> and hips disintegrate. But that is fundamentally a problem of too much >>>>> junk food and not enough exercise. A national health system encouraging >>>>> better diet might actually decrease these costs. The existing private >>>>> one doesn't care so long as the punters are insured and profitable. >>>> Britain and even France are seeing increasing levels of obesity. Look >>> True enough. Wherever the US junk food diet is exported (even Japan) >>> obesity rapidly increases. McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken being >>> the worst offenders. Highly processed unhealthy food is far too common. > > Here is one thing KFC is currently offering in Asia:- > > http://www.speff.com/kfc.jpg > > In USD terms, that's the equivalent of $1.97 and the magic wand is > making another of those breading-encrusted deep fried chicken patties > appear for a modest 15-cent adder. They offer delivery too, in case > you're too fat to waddle a few blocks. Total EUR 1.42 (tax included). > > Looks like lots of mayo oozing out too.. > But first, make an appointment with your cardiologist ... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Baron on 18 Oct 2009 08:41 Joerg wrote: > Baron wrote: >> Joerg wrote: >> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0100, Martin Brown >>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> I, like lots of people, like large servings. I eat a third or >>>>>> maybe half and take the rest to go. That's probably a consequence >>>>>> of the actual cost of food being a minor component of the >>>>>> restaurant's total costs. >>>>> I guess you are right. It may be a cultural thing but doggie bags >>>>> have a distinct yuck factor for us Europeans. I can't really think >>>>> of anything worse than taking away well cooked uneaten restaurant >>>>> food and then warming it up later in the week. I have sometimes >>>>> done it in the US since it offends me to see so much food go to >>>>> waste. >>>> It's very common in the US. It use to be considered a bit >>>> tasteless, but no more. >>>> >>> All those travel guides from the 70's and 80's for foreigners said >>> it was perfectly normal even back then. Except they were really >>> called "doggie bags" whereas nowadays nobody seems to use that word >>> anymore. The guides often also mentioned that proof of dog ownership >>> is not required ;-) >>> >>> Now it's more "Can I get this bagged?" or "Could I have a bag?". >>> Mostly the waitress will ask when seeing a lot of the good stuff >>> left on a plate, at least out here. >>> >>> [...] >>> >> >> First time I visited the US, I found it very strange to be given a >> bag >> of food left over. I initially thought that it was the restaurants >> way of getting rid of the waste food so they didn't have to manage >> the costs of disposal. >> > > Well, but what do you guys do at home with leftover food? Throw it all > away? That would seem quite wasteful. I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day. Very little waste at all nowadays. > We have neighbors who throw every leftover away. It makes me sad, > considering that some families in Africa don't know where tomorrow's > meals are going to come from. > Next door neighbour adds their food waste to feed the two dogs they own. But I do agree that an enormous amount of food is wasted nationally. You only have to look at the dumpsters at the back of the local supermarket ! Chock full of unsold foodstuff, just getting landfilled. -- Best Regards: Baron.
From: Baron on 18 Oct 2009 08:44 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:11:36 +0100, Baron > <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > >>Joerg wrote: >> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0100, Martin Brown >>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> I, like lots of people, like large servings. I eat a third or >>>>>> maybe half and take the rest to go. That's probably a consequence >>>>>> of the actual cost of food being a minor component of the >>>>>> restaurant's total costs. >>>>> I guess you are right. It may be a cultural thing but doggie bags >>>>> have a distinct yuck factor for us Europeans. I can't really think >>>>> of anything worse than taking away well cooked uneaten restaurant >>>>> food and then warming it up later in the week. I have sometimes >>>>> done it in the US since it offends me to see so much food go to >>>>> waste. >>>> >>>> It's very common in the US. It use to be considered a bit >>>> tasteless, but no more. >>>> >>> >>> All those travel guides from the 70's and 80's for foreigners said >>> it was perfectly normal even back then. Except they were really >>> called "doggie bags" whereas nowadays nobody seems to use that word >>> anymore. The guides often also mentioned that proof of dog ownership >>> is not required ;-) >>> >>> Now it's more "Can I get this bagged?" or "Could I have a bag?". >>> Mostly the waitress will ask when seeing a lot of the good stuff >>> left on a plate, at least out here. >>> >>> [...] >>> >> >>First time I visited the US, I found it very strange to be given a bag >>of food left over. I initially thought that it was the restaurants >>way of getting rid of the waste food so they didn't have to manage the >>costs of disposal. > > I suspect that is the _real_ deal. You carry away their trash > problem. Personally (*) I try to eat only half and leave the rest. > Taking it home only results in it residing in the refrigerator, > forgotten, until it spoils and smells :-( > > (*) Being just a wee bit rotund, and garnering more than half my > calories from wine ;-) > > ...Jim Thompson A good Bordeaux is hard to beat... -- Best Regards: Baron.
From: Phil Hobbs on 18 Oct 2009 08:58 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:11:36 +0100, Baron > <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > >> Joerg wrote: >> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0100, Martin Brown >>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> I, like lots of people, like large servings. I eat a third or maybe >>>>>> half and take the rest to go. That's probably a consequence of the >>>>>> actual cost of food being a minor component of the restaurant's >>>>>> total costs. >>>>> I guess you are right. It may be a cultural thing but doggie bags >>>>> have a distinct yuck factor for us Europeans. I can't really think >>>>> of anything worse than taking away well cooked uneaten restaurant >>>>> food and then warming it up later in the week. I have sometimes done >>>>> it in the US since it offends me to see so much food go to waste. >>>> It's very common in the US. It use to be considered a bit tasteless, >>>> but no more. >>>> >>> All those travel guides from the 70's and 80's for foreigners said it >>> was perfectly normal even back then. Except they were really called >>> "doggie bags" whereas nowadays nobody seems to use that word anymore. >>> The guides often also mentioned that proof of dog ownership is not >>> required ;-) >>> >>> Now it's more "Can I get this bagged?" or "Could I have a bag?". >>> Mostly the waitress will ask when seeing a lot of the good stuff left >>> on a plate, at least out here. >>> >>> [...] >>> >> First time I visited the US, I found it very strange to be given a bag >> of food left over. I initially thought that it was the restaurants way >> of getting rid of the waste food so they didn't have to manage the >> costs of disposal. > > I suspect that is the _real_ deal. You carry away their trash > problem. Personally (*) I try to eat only half and leave the rest. > Taking it home only results in it residing in the refrigerator, > forgotten, until it spoils and smells :-( > > (*) Being just a wee bit rotund, and garnering more than half my > calories from wine ;-) > > ...Jim Thompson Nah, it's just the economics of the restaurant business. People think that getting twice as much food for 20% more money is a good deal, but it costs the restaurant maybe 10% more overall (including staff, rent, utilities, etc.). That leads either to waste, obesity, or doggie bags. When I'm travelling on business, I usually stay at one of those suites places that have kitchens--getting the leftovers wrapped up means I only have to go to a restaurant every other day or so. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
From: JosephKK on 18 Oct 2009 14:10
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:26:17 -0700, Rich Grise <richgrise(a)example.net> wrote: >On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:01 -0700, dagmargoodboat wrote: >> On Oct 14, 11:35 am, Martin Brown wrote: >> >>> And it tends to be the poorer members of society that eat the most junk >>> food - it is after all the cheapest mass produced food. >> >> Fat Foolishness >> http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=508637 > >The obesity epidemic is caused by the food nazis taking real fat out of >everything - your body starves for fat (which is the primary component of >the myelin sheath around nerve fibers), so grabs and holds onto every >molecule of fat it encounters, like a camel anticipating a famine. > >Plus, people try to feed their emotional hungers with physical foods, >which clearly doesn't do any good. > >That saddles you with the dilemma of finding emotional nourishment, which >is already an onerous task in today's puritanical, statist society. > >Hope This Helps! >Rich I think you misspelled pruditanical. |