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From: Tom on 9 Apr 2010 01:38 On Apr 8, 8:15 am, "Bassos" <Root(a)wan (ask me)> wrote: > "Absorbed" <purestdeform...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > You still don't seem to understand that Tom thinks you're a loon, even > > though he's told you repeatedly. > > You could not find a claim of Tom that i would be a loon last time you > claimed that. I do indeed think you're a loon, Bassos. Most people who dabble in magick are loons and you do quite a lot of dabbling. > The entire notion of calling the way astrology moves it's students in a same > ballpark as the way a rorschach inkblot changes someone looking at it is > fucktarded. Some people don't appreciate country-and-western music at all. It doesn't move them a bit. Yet those same people may enjoy jazz or classical music and be deeply moved by it. Your tastes don't define art, Bassos. They only tell you what kind of art you like. In both astrology and Rorschach inkblots, meaning is imposed on random images. Jackson Pollock paintings are the same way. This is simply the way things are, no matter how you might feel about it.
From: Tom on 9 Apr 2010 01:52 On Apr 8, 7:14 pm, "slider" <sli...(a)anashram.com> wrote: > > ### - we 'do' all actually live in a fantasy land of our own imagining, No, we don't "actually live in a fantasy land". We actually live in the real world. We also fantasize. The more we are incapable of telling the difference between our real life and our fantasies, the more confused we become. Quite often, people who badly confuse their fantasies with reality think that people who are trying to point out the difference between fantasy and reality are opposed to fantasy, but this is just another confused fantasy. Fantasies have a variety of purposes that assist one in effectively living in the real world, but only when they are understood to be fantasies and are not being confused with reality. As one fails to use the capacity to distinguish between fantasy and reality, all sorts of pathologies arise.
From: slider on 9 Apr 2010 04:10 Tom wrote... > ### - we 'do' all actually live in a fantasy land of our own imagining, No, we don't "actually live in a fantasy land". We actually live in the real world. We also fantasize. The more we are incapable of telling the difference between our real life and our fantasies, the more confused we become. ### - note that i said 'of our own imagining' thus qualifying the context in which it was placed, which you've side-stepped slightly in favour of your own, hence now the misunderstanding... the point being that of course we live in the real world, and only that people have 'already' become so confused that they relate now more to their own 'conceptualised ideas' of reality and what it's 'supposed' to be all about (conceptual fantasies) than they do the real and actual world in which they live but no longer recognise (iow people now see everything in their own 'conceptualised' terms rather than how it actually is) Quite often, people who badly confuse their fantasies with reality think that people who are trying to point out the difference between fantasy and reality are opposed to fantasy, but this is just another confused fantasy. Fantasies have a variety of purposes that assist one in effectively living in the real world, but only when they are understood to be fantasies and are not being confused with reality. As one fails to use the capacity to distinguish between fantasy and reality, all sorts of pathologies arise. ### - all sorts of pathologies have 'already' arisen creating a situation that has virtually swallowed the human race whole! you yourself also having been swallowed whole only you don't seem to realise it because you implicitly trust all your own ideas of what everything's 'supposed' to be about from your own pov, and while you may 'think' you have a different version to others, it's still just another 'version' of the same kinda shite everyone is dining on, even though the varying flavours all appears to be very different (as different as biology is from astrophysics for example) the ultimate, intellectual/reason-destroying 'truth' being that nature, the world, and the rest of the universe isn't actually 'about' anything! and if you still think it 'is' about something, anything at all, then you are one of those still lost in their own fantasies and ideas born of their own imagination and relating to it exclusively as 'though' it were all real, only it isn't... to be blunt... there IS no 'meaning' to life there IS no 'purpose' to existence there IS no 'philosophy' the universe 'is', and we 'are', and that's it! period! so get used to it... everything else is a fantasy! Everything! science, religion, all and any beliefs 'none' of it is real except in our silly human heads basically because we 'want' it to be rather than face the truth e.g.. there's nothing at all 'scientific about the world, that's just a bunch of people going-around being all 'scientific' about everything, which might make it real to them but that still doesn't make it 'Real' in fact we'll believe anything at ALL, 'any' old lie and total waste of time rather than deal with the rather scary 'reality' of our situation (which one doesn't have to be a genius to grasp btw) consequently, everyone is hiding by burying themselves in (and under) their own personal + trivial man-made endless concerns, fabrications and projections, and if you can't see that then it's because either you maybe don't wish to, and/or are not ready yet for that level of understanding and letting-go... we were 'never' in-control :) ----------------- "All our lauded technological progress -- our very civilization - is like the axe in the hand of the pathological criminal." --Albert Einstein --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Absorbed on 9 Apr 2010 06:40 slider wrote: > Absorbed wrote... >>>> I'm not saying that's it's wrong for you to keep telling yourself stories, for >>>> you to be deluded in this way. But nevertheless, you are deluded. >>> ### - what business is it of yours (or of anyone's really i mean) what 'other' >>> people do? >> This is amusing, since you're the one questioning what I do. I haven't told >> anyone to do anything. Which leads to the question, What business is it of yours >> what I do? > > ### - i'm just questioning your apparent 'need' to be 'correct' beyond merely > stating your opinion just the once, I may have restated my opinion in a different way. That can help other's understand what I'm saying. It doesn't mean I 'need' to be 'correct'. A cursory glance at my previous posts on alt.magick will reveal that I don't need to be correct. > initially as applied to you and then expanding > that to 'or of anyone's really i mean' This makes no sense. > - iow what business is it of 'ours' what > other people do and/or choose to believe beyond simple enquiry unless they > specifically ask... certainly not to the point then of lobbing bricks at people > and stuff no? Chucking bricks at someone and making a post on Usenet aren't remotely similar. Since you appear to believe that it's no business of yours what I do, that means that if I choose to meddle in other people's "business", or questioning their beliefs, or even chuck bricks at them, it's none of your business.
From: Meltdarok on 9 Apr 2010 06:51
On 4/9/2010 4:10 AM, slider wrote: <snip> > even though the varying > flavours all appears to be very different--->(as different as biology is from > astrophysics for example)<--- > A *most* important point. > the ultimate, intellectual/reason-destroying 'truth' being that nature, the world, > and the rest of the universe isn't actually 'about' anything! and if you still > think it 'is' about something, anything at all, then you are one of those still > lost in their own fantasies and ideas born of their own imagination and relating > to it exclusively as 'though' it were all real, only it isn't... > > to be blunt... > there IS no 'meaning' to life The 'meaning' is that we are *all* family. > there IS no 'purpose' to existence > there IS no 'philosophy' > the universe 'is', and we 'are', and that's it! period! > so get used to it... > everything else is a fantasy! Everything! > science, religion, all and any beliefs > 'none' of it is real except in our silly human heads > basically because we 'want' it to be rather than face the truth > http://popup.lala.com/popup/504684655011358770 Yours Is the Light Music: Richard Kermode Lyric: Michael Shrieve Yours is the light that will always shine and shine eternally, eternally Mine is the search, never-ending search until I am with you. For you fill my life, all my days and nights with (light) memories of you. Santana > > we were 'never' in-control :) > > ----------------- > > "All our lauded technological progress -- our very civilization - is like > the axe in the hand of the pathological criminal." --Albert Einstein > > > > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net --- -- Rev. Dr. Meltdarok |