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From: Meltdarok on 11 Apr 2010 05:56 On 4/10/2010 12:47 PM, slider wrote: > Meltdarok wrote... > >>>>> even though the varying >>>>> flavours all appears to be very different--->(as different as biology is from >>>>> astrophysics for example)<--- >>>>> >>>> >>>> A *most* important point. >>> >>> ### - well i'm glad 'someone' picked-up on that heh heh :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> the ultimate, intellectual/reason-destroying 'truth' being that nature, the >>>>> world, >>>>> and the rest of the universe isn't actually 'about' anything! and if you >>>>> still >>>>> think it 'is' about something, anything at all, then you are one of those >>>>> still >>>>> lost in their own fantasies and ideas born of their own imagination and >>>>> relating >>>>> to it exclusively as 'though' it were all real, only it isn't... >>>>> >>>>> to be blunt... >>>>> there IS no 'meaning' to life >>>> >>>> The 'meaning' is that we are *all* family. >>> >>> ### - well that's certainly sweet, i could even say quite generous, but is >>> actually more a statement of fact rather than a 'meaning' per se (human meaning >>> is not universal, it only 'means' anything to us humans... iow 'we' have >>> intellectually invented 'all' the meanings (to things) for ourselves, meanings >>> that don't exist (has no meaning) outside/beyond the human species... >>> >>> >> >> That's funny. Go out in the Asian jungle and mess with a tiger cub in >> front of its mother. You will quickly receive a lesson in the 'meaning' >> of family. > > ### - lol if you're referring to the 'instinct' to protect one's own life and the > life of one's young then i totally agree, only animals don't do this out of a > sense of family but of an innate sense of self-preservation that 'extended' to our > young as being part of 'ourselves', which when intellectually translated becomes: > looking-out for our own 'possessions' (to put it crudely: 'ave ya seen all my > 'fings? i've got the job and the house, the car, the missus, the kids, the dog and > 2 cats plus a whole bunch of other stuff i've 'acquired', all my possessions and > worldly-goods which i'll fight to defend... because they're all 'mine' and not > no-one's else's! alright!! (just your average joe iow haha :) > > The tigeresses confirmed this as what they thought, right? > > > > >> OTOH, yes, humans can make up definitions such as 'loyalty'. >> But it's our own fault (now that we know the *facts*), that >> we prefer to remain stingy with our loyalty, (as we have yet >> to encounter much that gives us a 'cause' to 'rally' around.) > > ### - it's hardly surprising in a world where mankind is increasingly shutting > themselves away from direct contact with everyone else (iow becoming more and more > 'insular' not only among ourselves but also as a species), yet do we still have > really quite rewarding relationships with our animal cousins and friends, some > people even preferring their animals' company to human company in terns of loyalty > and true friendship... > > > > > >> So I'm guessing that you have yet to bond with another species >> yet. Our parakeets never had their cage doors closed, and they >> used their cages mostly to eat and sleep, the rest of the time >> they preferred to be with us downstairs. They also enjoyed >> grooming our, and perching on us. >> >> I needn't go into the love& loyalty of our dogs. > > ### - dammit man i used to have this cat when i first left home as a nipper, and i > can honestly say that that moggie was not only a good companion but was also a > true friend in every sense of the word, and from whom i actually learned to > goddamn live on my own haha! (boss cat heh:) plus i 'still' miss the hairy kid, > that furball with the yellow eyes who used to hang-around this place, my old pal > jim awww... (damn old-age pensioner cat nearly broke my fuckin' heart when he died > lol + snif, i liked him :) > > And there's your meaning. > > > > >>>>> there IS no 'purpose' to existence >>>>> there IS no 'philosophy' >>>>> the universe 'is', and we 'are', and that's it! period! >>>>> so get used to it... >>>>> everything else is a fantasy! Everything! >>>>> science, religion, all and any beliefs >>>>> 'none' of it is real except in our silly human heads >>>>> basically because we 'want' it to be rather than face the truth >>>>> >>>> >>>> http://popup.lala.com/popup/504684655011358770 >>>> >>>> Yours Is the Light >>>> Music: Richard Kermode >>>> Lyric: Michael Shrieve >>>> >>>> Yours is the light that will always shine >>>> and shine eternally, eternally >>>> Mine is the search, never-ending search >>>> until I am with you. >>>> For you fill my life, >>>> all my days and nights >>>> with (light) memories of you. >>>> >>>> Santana >>> >>> ### - nice words... here's another, same cool band ... >>> (i just like the unspoken 'double-meaning' involved ;) >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOHfjn1X368 >>> >>> I ain't got nobody >>> That I can depend on >>> I ain't got nobody >>> That I can depend on >>> Ain't got nobody >>> That I can depend on >>> Ain't got nobody >>> That I can depend on >>> >>> Ain't got no one >>> No tengo a nadie >>> That I know of >>> No tengo a nadie >>> That I can depend on >>> No tengo a nadie >>> Ain't got no one >>> >>> Got nobody >>> That I can depend on >>> No tengo a nadie >>> I ain't got nobody >>> That I can depend on >>> No tengo a nadie >>> >>> one is complaining, the other is affirming a fact of life >>> >>> choose :) >>> >> >> To me that was the definitive album of the Woodstock era band, >> in fact, the entire first side of the vinyl is one contiguous >> piece of music. Whenever I saw the logo, or someone said "Santana" >> the first cut of that album sprang forth fresh in my mind. >> Ha, ha, now there's Holst! > > ### - holst was my piano teacher's teacher (my only claim to fame heh;) so i kinda > like holst, the planet suit being a fav of old (everyone's heard bits of the > planet suit, jupiter and mars being the more popular perhaps;) > > whereas 'schoenberg' for some unearthly reason just makes me laugh and laugh and > laugh hahaha! :) > > try it! :) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WVtoAykS4&feature=PlayList&p=6D635016E319F707&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=49 > > it's a playlist comprised of several vids > > enjoy :) > > Well, I do not like Beethoven, I prefer Mozart to him. I remember once that there was a concert that featured both Beethoven and Mozart, the Beethoven piece was first---and *everything* that I don't like about Beethoven was in that piece! Thankfully I don't remember which one it is! Schoenberg on the other hand seems right on the mark! > > > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net --- -- Rev. Dr. Meltdarok
From: Ala on 12 Apr 2010 20:31 "Meltdarok" <meltdarok(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:xsNvn.219388$Jq1.131252(a)en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com... > > To me that was the definitive album of the Woodstock era band, > in fact, the entire first side of the vinyl is one contiguous > piece of music. Whenever I saw the logo, or someone said "Santana" > the first cut of that album sprang forth fresh in my mind. > Ha, ha, now there's Holst! > >> >> to me, the defnitive album of the Woodstock era was the Woodstock soundtrack I owned both that and the Santana album (well 8 track really some friend of my dad's gave it to us, probably when throwing stuff away) The Santana song on the Woodstock album is the instrumental Soul Sacrifice (preceded by the rain chant)
From: Don Stockbauer on 13 Apr 2010 00:10 On Apr 12, 7:31 pm, "Ala" <alackr...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > "Meltdarok" <meltda...(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > news:xsNvn.219388$Jq1.131252(a)en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com... > > > > > To me that was the definitive album of the Woodstock era band, > > in fact, the entire first side of the vinyl is one contiguous > > piece of music. Whenever I saw the logo, or someone said "Santana" > > the first cut of that album sprang forth fresh in my mind. > > Ha, ha, now there's Holst! > > to me, the defnitive album of the Woodstock era was the Woodstock soundtrack > > I owned both that and the Santana album (well 8 track really some friend of > my dad's gave it to us, probably when throwing stuff away) > > The Santana song on the Woodstock album is the instrumental Soul Sacrifice > (preceded by the rain chant) My album is made out of billion year old carbon.
From: slider on 13 Apr 2010 07:25 Meltdarok wrote... >>>>>> even though the varying >>>>>> flavours all appears to be very different--->(as different as biology is >>>>>> from >>>>>> astrophysics for example)<--- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A *most* important point. >>>> >>>> ### - well i'm glad 'someone' picked-up on that heh heh :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> the ultimate, intellectual/reason-destroying 'truth' being that nature, the >>>>>> world, >>>>>> and the rest of the universe isn't actually 'about' anything! and if you >>>>>> still >>>>>> think it 'is' about something, anything at all, then you are one of those >>>>>> still >>>>>> lost in their own fantasies and ideas born of their own imagination and >>>>>> relating >>>>>> to it exclusively as 'though' it were all real, only it isn't... >>>>>> >>>>>> to be blunt... >>>>>> there IS no 'meaning' to life >>>>> >>>>> The 'meaning' is that we are *all* family. >>>> >>>> ### - well that's certainly sweet, i could even say quite generous, but is >>>> actually more a statement of fact rather than a 'meaning' per se (human >>>> meaning >>>> is not universal, it only 'means' anything to us humans... iow 'we' have >>>> intellectually invented 'all' the meanings (to things) for ourselves, >>>> meanings >>>> that don't exist (has no meaning) outside/beyond the human species... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> That's funny. Go out in the Asian jungle and mess with a tiger cub in >>> front of its mother. You will quickly receive a lesson in the 'meaning' >>> of family. >> >> ### - lol if you're referring to the 'instinct' to protect one's own life and >> the >> life of one's young then i totally agree, only animals don't do this out of a >> sense of family but of an innate sense of self-preservation that 'extended' to >> our >> young as being part of 'ourselves', which when intellectually translated >> becomes: >> looking-out for our own 'possessions' (to put it crudely: 'ave ya seen all my >> 'fings? i've got the job and the house, the car, the missus, the kids, the dog >> and >> 2 cats plus a whole bunch of other stuff i've 'acquired', all my possessions >> and >> worldly-goods which i'll fight to defend... because they're all 'mine' and not >> no-one's else's! alright!! (just your average joe iow haha :) >> >> > > The tigeresses confirmed this as what they thought, right? ### - no silly, animals don't 'think', from an instinctual pov they/we either know something or they/we don't :) >>> OTOH, yes, humans can make up definitions such as 'loyalty'. >>> But it's our own fault (now that we know the *facts*), that >>> we prefer to remain stingy with our loyalty, (as we have yet >>> to encounter much that gives us a 'cause' to 'rally' around.) >> >> ### - it's hardly surprising in a world where mankind is increasingly shutting >> themselves away from direct contact with everyone else (iow becoming more and >> more >> 'insular' not only among ourselves but also as a species), yet do we still have >> really quite rewarding relationships with our animal cousins and friends, some >> people even preferring their animals' company to human company in terns of >> loyalty >> and true friendship... >> >> >> >> >> >>> So I'm guessing that you have yet to bond with another species >>> yet. Our parakeets never had their cage doors closed, and they >>> used their cages mostly to eat and sleep, the rest of the time >>> they preferred to be with us downstairs. They also enjoyed >>> grooming our, and perching on us. >>> >>> I needn't go into the love& loyalty of our dogs. >> >> ### - dammit man i used to have this cat when i first left home as a nipper, >> and i >> can honestly say that that moggie was not only a good companion but was also a >> true friend in every sense of the word, and from whom i actually learned to >> goddamn live on my own haha! (boss cat heh:) plus i 'still' miss the hairy kid, >> that furball with the yellow eyes who used to hang-around this place, my old >> pal >> jim awww... (damn old-age pensioner cat nearly broke my fuckin' heart when he >> died >> lol + snif, i liked him :) >> >> > > And there's your meaning. ### - meaning is exclusive to humans alone, we invented them all and as-such got ourselves into quite a lot of trouble as a result... whereas the rest of the universe seems to do very well 'without' meaning, and never gets into trouble :) --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Tom on 13 Apr 2010 15:33
On Apr 12, 9:10 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > My album is made out of billion year old carbon. Talk about your carbon dating! |