From: Ala on

"Tom" <dantomel(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Apr 12, 9:10 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> My album is made out of billion year old carbon.

>Talk about your carbon dating!

Cesium is actually more handsome, taller and a better conversationalist

From: Ala on

"Don Stockbauer" <donstockbauer(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>My album is made out of billion year old carbon.


You say that like it's a *bad* thing....
all of mine are broken in half

From: "Bassos" Root on
> "Tom" <dantomel(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4bcb2b12-3d50-4e1e-93fe-ef7a14e6f669(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 7:35 pm, "Bassos" <Root(a)wan (ask me)> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, because i deny your claim, it must be true.
>>
>> Very scientific of you.
>
> Bassos, the "claim" you are disbelieving is my statement that I think
> you're a loon. Only a loon would adamantly disbelieve someone when
> they said that.

You altered your claim to simply mean eccentric.

Eccentric is more uranus, not so much the moon.

> So, by continually insisting that I don't think you're a loon after
> I've very clearly said that I do, you end up convincing more and more
> people that you are indeed a loon.

I know you do not think i am crazy; but influenced by Uranus, f'r sure.
(it is that whole sun/jupiter opposite uranus)

>> Pyrrho doubts everything, so also all your claims.
>> That is not loony, it is holding you up to higher standards.
>
> You're not doubting. You're adamantly believing that I don't think
> you're a loon, despite the fact that I have stated explicitly that I
> think you're a loon.

I should have indeed first queried you about what you specifically would
mean by influenced by the moon, if you actually meant influenced by uranus.

>> A loon is someone with severe mental issues that cause the loon distress.
>
> That's not the definition I'm using.

Lessee :

> Loon is a shortened form of the slang term "loony", which is
> derived from the word "lunatic"

Lunatic; Crazy.

Yep, exactly the way absorbed used it.

> and refers to a person who is mentally ill and/or foolishly eccentric.

Eccentric is still a uranus reference.
Mentally ill is the one you refused to apply to me.

> There is nothing in any definition of
> the term (except the loony one you made up) that has distress as a
> critical quality.

Mentally ill............

How can it be Ill if there is no distress ?

Every single person is delusional already, so that is no guideline.

Distress is the measuring tape.
(or danger to self/others)

> Since I'm the one who thinks you're a loon and says
> so, I think you're a loon according to *my* definition of the term,
> which is one that many dictionaries include, not *yours*, which no
> dictionary includes.
>
> I think you're a loon. I have good reasons, some of them stated
> above, for thinking that you're a loon.

You think i am eccentric/annoying, and i already claimed that.

See how your technique is rusty ?

You only get better by playing a better opponent.

> Now this does not mean I am not occasionlly amused by you or that I
> don't like you. I have a number of loony friends. I'm not that picky
> about who I like.

Ah, such sweetness, thanks tommiedarling.

>> > What do you suspect I'm trying to manipulate you into doing?
>>
>> Don't you know ?
>
> Since you apparently believe that you know better than me what I
> think, why not tell me? I suspect your interpretation of my motives
> will be very different from mine.

You sometimes get moved by me, but do not understand how i do it,
therefore you think that if you get me to post something (like this) for you
to pick apart, you will understand.

It is all sang out by dear bonnie.

>> > Why are you sure I'm not trying to manipulate him too?
>>
>> I am not.
>>
>> That is merely a claim to annoy absorbed.
>
> Now I know you're trying as hard as you can to emulate me,

Ah.
Is everything about Tom now ?
Did my reference of Tom Bombadil not teach you anything ?

> and I very clearly annoy people, too. However, I don't just say things to
> annoy
> people regardless of the facts. That's too ham-handed. I annoy
> people with the barbed way that I present the facts.

If someone get's annoyed at all it is free game.

That is what absorbed is now attempting to explain to slider.

There are no facts at all.

And you already knew that.


From: Tom on
On Apr 16, 9:12 pm, "Bassos" <Root(a)wan (ask me)> wrote:
> > "Tom" <danto...(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:4bcb2b12-3d50-4e1e-93fe-ef7a14e6f669(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 10, 7:35 pm, "Bassos" <Root(a)wan (ask me)> wrote:
>
> >> Ah, because i deny your claim, it must be true.
>
> >> Very scientific of you.
>
> > Bassos, the "claim" you are disbelieving is my statement that I think
> > you're a loon.  Only a loon would adamantly disbelieve someone when
> > they said that.
>
> You altered your claim to simply mean eccentric.

Lunatic, crazed, daft, dazed, demented, foolish, silly.

> Eccentric is more uranus, not so much the moon.

You're not so much eccentric as you are extremely foolish.

> > So, by continually insisting that I don't think you're a loon after
> > I've very clearly said that I do, you end up convincing more and more
> > people that you are indeed a loon.
>
> I know you do not think i am crazy; but influenced by Uranus, f'r sure.

One of the reasons why you're a loon is that you attribute your
foolishness to the influence of planets rather than to your own
choices to immerse yourself in foolishness.

> There are no facts at all.

That kind of statement is also evidence that you're a loon.
From: slider on

Absorbed wrote...

>> the 'original' point being about the 'principle' of the 'fun' being
>> in the 'debate' instead of a slanging-match (there IS a difference)
>> which you've been attempting to 'evade' by deliberately turning the
>> whole conversation around into one about 'my' ability to communicate
>> 'instead' (which incidentally is completely besides the point! :)
>
> I'm not entirely sure what you believe I'm evading. You appear to be
> questioning my motivations for posting here. I claimed that my primary
> motivation was debating, and you seem to be implying that I'm lying or
> deluded and that my motivation is actually to have "a slanging-match".

### - well this at-least is a reasonable + on-topic + honest question, in-that
it's not that i was questioning your motivation for 'posting' per se (the answer
to which, if i did, i assume being for the "fun in the debate", which
incidentally i have no problem whatsoever relating to...

no, what i was 'actually' querying was your 'yah-boo' style of debating of making
things unnecessarily difficult by reducing perfectly good questions to matters of
a strictly 'personal' nature...

iow, by all-means intelligently refute whatever maybe appears to you as
inconsistencies in other people's argument(s), ideas, opinions or whatever... but
to attempt to do by merely 'shooting the messenger' so to speak is, imho and
experience, a pretty damn crappy way of making a point/winning a debate, no?

i mean, look at it this way perhaps... in that someone famous once said/observed.
"that the greatest lesson in life is to learn that even 'fools' are right
sometimes." (winston churchill i believe) - the point being that accusing/proving
someone of being a fool is no guarantee that they're in-fact wrong in what they're
positing/stating/observing, and thus 'other' methods are ultimately required to
determine the accuracy of something other than someone's idea or belief that the
other person saying/suggesting something is a fool...

and THAT'S what i was 'actually' talking about, which you missed because you
went-for anger (i.e. emotion) rather than that of intellect and reason...

everything 'else' that you've subsequently raised since i first mentioned that is
redundant and therefore not worth debating, even though you appear to want to make
an issue out of it... plus if i replied with some pointed-remarks of my own, this
was only because of your rather insulting/offensive nature that you immediately
carried-over to me from your 'slanging-match' with bassos
(slanging-match/pissing-contest because all 'reason' had gone 'out' of the debate,
which by definition had become a "debate" no longer :)

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