From: Whirled.Peas on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:25:13 +1000, Gary R. Schmidt wrote:

> Mark Warner wrote:
>>
>> Just curious. How many here use desktop Linux on a regular basis?
>> Doesn't need to be your primary platform, but use it enough to consider
>> yourself a "user".
>>
> Well, Solaris and HP-UX and AIX are still in my "desktop" environment,
> but so is Linux, and several variants.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary B-)

I've not had a chance to work with HP-UX. I hear good things about its
main amdin tool set.

AIX though . . . my hat is off to you . . . I do not like AIX.



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From: Gordon Darling on
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:25:55 +0000, Bear Bottoms wrote:


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> Because the great majority of freeware is developed for Windows.

Total utter bollocks





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From: Non scrivetemi on
grant <sample(a)example.invalid> wrote in
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> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:25:55 GMT, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com>
> wrote:
>
>>the great majority of freeware is developed for Windows.
>
> There are "over 25000 packages, precompiled software bundled up in a
> nice format for easy installation" on Debian Linux.
> <http://www.debian.org/>
>
> Am I to understand there are vastly more than 25,000 freeware programs
> for Windows? And are those free, as in beer, or free, as in speech?
>

Dude, it's probable that there are more than 25,000 registry cleaners
alone!






From: KristleBawl on
grant expressed an opinion:
> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>> the great majority of freeware is developed for Windows.
>
> There are "over 25000 packages, precompiled software bundled up in a
> nice format for easy installation" on Debian Linux.
> <http://www.debian.org/>
>
> Am I to understand there are vastly more than 25,000 freeware
> programs for Windows? And are those free, as in beer, or free, as in
> speech?

That's a tired argument. Freeware is freeware, Open Source or not.

For the vast majority of non-techie *home* users that do not use a
computer for work of any kind, the ability to modify or distribute our
favorite free programs is irrelevant. It's easier to simply recommend
something and let others download it for themselves. Cnet's site,
download.com is plenty good enough for nearly 50,000 free programs for
Windows users. Of course, that's just the ones hosted by Cnet.

For more advanced power users, there are many more options than just
Windows and Mac. There are more versions of *nix than I'd like to count,
but they require either a certain level of computer experience, above
ordinary *user* level, or a tech to set it up for them. Outside of major
cities, tech support for *nix is very hard to find.

Far too many home users literally require out-of-the-box ready. They pay
for ISP or cable techs to come into their homes and plug in the modem,
not just install and configure the software. Installing an OS and
various device drivers is too scary to consider.

Even in an office, admin and user accounts are often in place simply
because the office worker doesn't actually use the computer for real
work, just a word processor and email device. Many are not allowed to
install programs because they don't even know what the programs do.

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From: KristleBawl on
Bear Bottoms expressed an opinion:
> I always reformat after testing Bearware apps. Such apps don't
> uninstall properly and thusly make my machine freeze.
>
> I recommend everyone gets into a good habit and reinstalls their
> Windows at least once a month. I do mine every weekend.

That's just plain foolishness. Get a second unit for testing crapware.

Windows doesn't need to be reinstalled *ever* unless the user mucks it
up or the hard drive fails.

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