The perpetual calendar [Math]

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From: António Marques on 23 Feb 2010 14:09

Brian M. Scott wrote (23-02-2010 18:50):
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:41:20 -0800, Skitt
> <skitt99(a)comcast.net> wrote in
> <news:hm17gp$89l$1(a)news.albasani.net> in
> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english:
>
>> PaulJK wrote:
>
>>> We invented DST to set clocks back one hour in summer
>
>> forward
>
> That's the usual terminology, at least in the U.S., but it
> does depends on one's point of view.

Back in my college days, a friend of mine used to refer to the guys that
entered college in the year after us as 'the guys from the year before us'.
It was 'the year before' because at any given time they were attending the
classes we had attended 'the year before'. Or they 'before' (closer to the
origin) our point on the time axis.

From: António Marques on 23 Feb 2010 14:14

Yusuf B Gursey wrote (23-02-2010 18:51):
> On Feb 23, 1:39 pm, Yusuf B Gursey<y...(a)theworld.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 23, 1:19 pm, António Marques<antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote:
>>> What I wonder is - are there 'old' latin-rite communities there alongside
>>> 'modern' ones (western migrants), or do they all mingle? It would be a
>>> tiny-minority within a tiny minority.
>>
>> well, I assume they would go to the same churches. in the main holy
>> places Latin is used when Catholics have their turn.
>
> and all of the Catholics are partial to the French-run schools.

I've been wondering: how do the maronites pronounce their french names, and
how does Jumblatt have a german-sounding name? And what does Nasrallah (I
presume something to do with God) mean and who gets to use it?

From: Brian M. Scott on 23 Feb 2010 14:18

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:57:11 -0800, Skitt
<skitt99(a)comcast.net> wrote in
<news:hm18ef$9gh$1(a)news.albasani.net> in
sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english:

> Brian M. Scott wrote:
>> Skitt wrote:
>>> PaulJK wrote:

>>>> We invented DST to set clocks back one hour in summer

>>> forward

>> That's the usual terminology, at least in the U.S., but it
>> does depends on one's point of view.

> Deciding whether a clock runs forward or backward, you mean?

No. When you push the time from (say) 10 to 11, you can see
this as pushing it away from you, just as you might push an
opponent back. When you let it go from 11 to 10, you're
then letting it approach you, i.e., come forward.

Brian

From: Skitt on 23 Feb 2010 14:54

Brian M. Scott wrote:
> Skitt wrote:
>> Brian M. Scott wrote:
>>> Skitt wrote:
>>>> PaulJK wrote:

>>>>> We invented DST to set clocks back one hour in summer
>
>>>> forward
>
>>> That's the usual terminology, at least in the U.S., but it
>>> does depends on one's point of view.
>
>> Deciding whether a clock runs forward or backward, you mean?
>
> No. When you push the time from (say) 10 to 11, you can see
> this as pushing it away from you, just as you might push an
> opponent back. When you let it go from 11 to 10, you're
> then letting it approach you, i.e., come forward.

That is a strange way to look at it with regard to time. What happens to
the "spring forward" and "fall back" reminder? It gets reversed for the
people of that persuasion?
--
Skitt (AmE)
can't be persuaded to stray from the normal ...

From: Adam Funk on 23 Feb 2010 15:02

On 2010-02-23, António Marques wrote:

> "Roman Catholic" ISN'T AN OFFICIAL SELF-DESIGNATION. ANYWHERE.

Are you going to write to all the churches in the UK with "St ____'s
Roman Catholic Church" or "St ____'s R. C. Church" on their signs,
newsletters, websites, etc., to tell them that they are wrong? (I
think this is common in much of the USA too.)

In any case, the description is useful, since several church
organizations use 'Catholic' in their names, and 'Roman' clearly
refers to the one with the HQ in Rome. (We could revive the old BL
subject heading "Rome, Church of".)

> In the tradition from which the Roman and the Greek Churches come, the
> Church has no splitting qualifiers. It's just 'the Church'. 'Roman Church'
> can only mean 'the Church in the city of Rome' or 'the Church, in communion
> with Rome' (which is redundant).
>
> From the Church's point of view, there aren't multiple churches. There's
> only one. To say that there is more than one church is heresy. It's not a
> matter of wishing to be the only one, it's a religious matter. The
> multiplicity of churches is anathema and downright sin.

Well, they would say that, wouldn't they...

> The Roman Church usually calls itself 'the Church', but is fond of
> 'Catholic' for a variety of reasons, so 'the Catholic Church' is often used
> officially. In ecumenical context, if apporpriate, it doesn't object to also
> being 'Roman', but that adjective is otherwise left out since it may be
> interpreted as limiting (if not outright contradictory when juxtaposed to
> 'catholic'). Courtesy also means the RC is willing to call the Orthodox
> 'Orthodox', since it's the name the latter are fond of, not unlike the
> catholics are fond of 'Catholic'. That doesn't mean the RC doesn't consider
> itself orthodox, or that the EO don't consider themselves catholic.

Nor does it mean that other churches can't consider themselves
catholic too (typically they mean that they follow church traditions
such as the episcopate, the historic creeds, and some form of the Real
Presence). Some of them have "Catholic" in the name, some don't.

(Note that the Old Catholic Church separated from Roman authority
because the Vatican wouldn't send new bishops to the Netherlands even
though the RC people there asked for them. The OCs didn't create the
schism.)

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