From: Robert Bannister on
Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2010-02-23, António Marques wrote:
>
>> "Roman Catholic" ISN'T AN OFFICIAL SELF-DESIGNATION. ANYWHERE.
>
> Are you going to write to all the churches in the UK with "St ____'s
> Roman Catholic Church" or "St ____'s R. C. Church" on their signs,
> newsletters, websites, etc., to tell them that they are wrong? (I
> think this is common in much of the USA too.)

I won't try to claim such signs don't exist, but I don't remember ever
seeing one. The only way I can tell a church is RC is by the
architecture and usually by the name (saint I've never heard of or
long-winded way of saying Mary).

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Rob Bannister
From: Robert Bannister on
Ant�nio Marques wrote:

> It's not what you think. Either the Church's message is universal and
> Christ did found one Church, or it isn't.

Now there's a new one: the first I've heard that Jesus founded or even
wanted a church.
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Rob Bannister
From: Andrew Usher on
Mike Barnes wrote:

> It's not a matter of true or false. The start of the week is a
> perception, not a fact. Different people have different perceptions. If
> you appear not to recognise this, you risk being thought a crank.

You can define the week any way you want, but the historical seven-day
week begins on Sunday. If you use Monday, you are defining a different
week.

Andrew Usher
From: Robert Bannister on
Brian M. Scott wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:43 +0800, Robert Bannister
> <robban1(a)bigpond.com> wrote in
> <news:7ugpr7Fll6U1(a)mid.individual.net> in
> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english:
>
>> Brian M. Scott wrote:
>
>>> R H Draney wrote:
>
>>> [...]
>
>>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with
>>>> Daylight Saving Time....
>
>>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply
>>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r
>
>>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all
>>> year round.
>
>> I think you should go and live in Inverness until you
>> change your mind.
>
> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As
> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time
> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher
> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no
> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the
> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the
> benefit of as much daylight as possible.

The eternal rift between morning and evening people. I get very ratty
when politicians force me to get up in the dark more often than need be,
whereas I think dinner is best eaten when it is dark outside.

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Rob Bannister
From: Robert Bannister on
Brian M. Scott wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:47:50 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in
> <news:f7fabd1d-91cc-413d-96ca-38c1f6ba3d09(a)f8g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
> in
> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english:
>
>> On Feb 23, 12:52 am, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote:
>
>>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:32:03 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
>>> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote in
>>> <news:ad442cf6-ce22-4ffe-b05b-786b865fb3fc(a)g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
>>> in
>>> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english:
>
>>>> On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott"
>>>> <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote:
>
>>> [...]
>
>>>>> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As
>>>>> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time
>>>>> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher
>>>>> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no
>>>>> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the
>>>>> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the
>>>>> benefit of as much daylight as possible.
>
>>>> The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school
>>>> in the dark.
>
>>> I hadn't noticed that DST would make much difference to that
>>> in many of the places that I've lived.
>
>> Who was it said "I couldn't care less how dark it is in the morning"?
>
> I did. So? 'Morning' covers rather a lot, and the fact
> remains that at the time of day that kids are going to
> school, DST doesn't necessarily make a great deal of
> difference in the amount of daylight.

It depends where you live and what time school starts and finishes in
your area. To get to school by 8 or 8:15 am, some country kids need to
be on the school bus by 7. Now, when daylight saving was first
introduced, it only covered the summer months, but then they had to
tamper with it, so that by the end of the period now, 7 am is before
sunrise.

A potentially worse problem is that in coming home at what is by sun
time 2 pm, the children are travelling at the hottest time of the day.

(Western Australian schools operate from somewhere between 8 and 8:30 am
to between 2:45 and 3:15 pm. Pre-primaries finish earlier, of course.)

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Rob Bannister