The pointing out of black hole failure
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From: PD on 6 May 2010 14:46 On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > singularities." > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory. Kip > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said. After all, > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > to boot. > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > faulty memory? > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point or another. > The problem is > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > Mitch Raemsch
From: BURT on 6 May 2010 14:53 On May 6, 11:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > > singularities." > > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory. Kip > > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said. After all, > > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > > to boot. > > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > > faulty memory? > > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. > > Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not > rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point > or another. > > > > > The problem is > > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? I dare you to prove that. I challenge you right now that he said it and you are going to have to find the truth of that out all on your own. Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of order in the universe
From: PD on 6 May 2010 14:57 On May 6, 1:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 6, 11:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > > > singularities." > > > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory. Kip > > > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said. After all, > > > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > > > to boot. > > > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > > > faulty memory? > > > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > > > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. > > > Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not > > rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point > > or another. > > > > The problem is > > > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. Why would you post by bluff? > > I dare you to prove that. I challenge you right now that he said it > and you are going to have to find the truth of that out all on your > own. > > Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of order in the universe
From: BURT on 6 May 2010 15:01 On May 6, 11:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 6, 1:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > > > > singularities." > > > > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory.. Kip > > > > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said. After all, > > > > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > > > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > > > > to boot. > > > > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > > > > faulty memory? > > > > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > > > > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. > > > > Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not > > > rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point > > > or another. > > > > > The problem is > > > > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? > > I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about > it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't > appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd > remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library > quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. > > So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. > > Why would you post by bluff? > > > > > > > I dare you to prove that. I challenge you right now that he said it > > and you are going to have to find the truth of that out all on your > > own. > > > Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of order in the universe- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Kip Thorne was simply the excuse maker for the failure of black hole theory. I challenge you. Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on 6 May 2010 15:03
On May 6, 2:01 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 6, 11:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 1:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 11:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > > > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > > > > > singularities." > > > > > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory. Kip > > > > > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > > > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > > > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > > > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said. After all, > > > > > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > > > > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > > > > > to boot. > > > > > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > > > > > faulty memory? > > > > > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > > > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > > > > > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. > > > > > Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not > > > > rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point > > > > or another. > > > > > > The problem is > > > > > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? > > > I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about > > it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't > > appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd > > remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library > > quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. > > > So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. > > > Why would you post by bluff? > > > > I dare you to prove that. I challenge you right now that he said it > > > and you are going to have to find the truth of that out all on your > > > own. > > > > Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of order in the universe- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Kip Thorne was simply the excuse maker for the failure of black hole > theory. I challenge you. Empty challenge there, Mitch. You make up stuff as you go. That doesn't make for much of a challenge. |