The pointing out of black hole failure
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From: BURT on 6 May 2010 15:11 On May 6, 12:03 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 6, 2:01 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 1:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 11:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > > > > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > > > > > > singularities." > > > > > > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory. Kip > > > > > > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > > > > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > > > > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > > > > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said. After all, > > > > > > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > > > > > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > > > > > > to boot. > > > > > > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > > > > > > faulty memory? > > > > > > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > > > > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > > > > > > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. > > > > > > Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not > > > > > rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point > > > > > or another. > > > > > > > The problem is > > > > > > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? > > > > I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about > > > it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't > > > appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd > > > remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library > > > quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. > > > > So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. > > > > Why would you post by bluff? > > > > > I dare you to prove that. I challenge you right now that he said it > > > > and you are going to have to find the truth of that out all on your > > > > own. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of order in the universe- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Kip Thorne was simply the excuse maker for the failure of black hole > > theory. I challenge you. > > Empty challenge there, Mitch. You make up stuff as you go. That > doesn't make for much of a challenge.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Please demonstrate that GR is right when things will fall at light speed. Kip Thorne made that excuse. I bet you in the future what Kip Thorne said as an excuse will be recognised as one of his biggest failures. I am waiting for that to happen. How much do you want to bet that it won't? Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on 6 May 2010 15:14 On May 6, 2:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 6, 12:03 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 2:01 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 11:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 1:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 11:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > > > > > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > > > > > > > singularities." > > > > > > > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory. Kip > > > > > > > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > > > > > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > > > > > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > > > > > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said. After all, > > > > > > > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > > > > > > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > > > > > > > to boot. > > > > > > > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > > > > > > > faulty memory? > > > > > > > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > > > > > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > > > > > > > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. > > > > > > > Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not > > > > > > rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point > > > > > > or another. > > > > > > > > The problem is > > > > > > > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? > > > > > I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about > > > > it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't > > > > appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd > > > > remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library > > > > quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. > > > > > So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. > > > > > Why would you post by bluff? > > > > > > I dare you to prove that. I challenge you right now that he said it > > > > > and you are going to have to find the truth of that out all on your > > > > > own. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of order in the universe- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Kip Thorne was simply the excuse maker for the failure of black hole > > > theory. I challenge you. > > > Empty challenge there, Mitch. You make up stuff as you go. That > > doesn't make for much of a challenge.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Please demonstrate that GR is right when things will fall at light > speed. GR doesn't say things will. > Kip Thorne made that excuse. I don't think so. Prove that he did. > > I bet you in the future what Kip Thorne said as an excuse will be > recognised as one of his biggest failures. I am waiting for that to > happen. How much do you want to bet that it won't? How much did you earn panhandling today? I'll bet half that, so that you can still get some lunch.
From: eric gisse on 6 May 2010 15:17 PD wrote: [...] >> So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? > > I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about > it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't > appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd > remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library > quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. > > So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. > > Why would you post by bluff? To make better hands fold. [...]
From: BURT on 6 May 2010 15:20 On May 6, 12:14 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 6, 2:11 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:03 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 2:01 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 11:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 1:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:46 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 6, 1:19 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 8:00 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 3:14 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen Hawking demonstrated it in the math of the singularity. He > > > > > > > > > > said "General Relativity predicts its own downfall by predicting > > > > > > > > > > singularities." > > > > > > > > > > > General Relativity breaks the motion laws of the special theory. Kip > > > > > > > > > > Thorne made an excuse for it saying that all is alright becuase > > > > > > > > > > "things do not fall faster than light." But either way the motion laws > > > > > > > > > > of Einstein's theories are broken. > > > > > > > > > > I don't think you remember correctly what Kip Thorne said.. After all, > > > > > > > > > you only remember what you read quite a while back while thumbing > > > > > > > > > through his book in the library. You gave me a bogus page reference, > > > > > > > > > to boot. > > > > > > > > > > Why not check what he REALLY said, rather than relying on your dim and > > > > > > > > > faulty memory? > > > > > > > > > > > No. There is a limit to acceleration to below light speed change and > > > > > > > > > > therefore to the gravity force itself. > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > Kip Thorne was the excuse maker for black hole failure. The excuse was > > > > > > > > that things could fall at light speed but no faster. > > > > > > > > Again, you probably need to find out exactly what he said, and not > > > > > > > rely on what you think you remember you might have read at one point > > > > > > > or another. > > > > > > > > > The problem is > > > > > > > > that still violates the motion laws of Special Relativity. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? > > > > > > I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about > > > > > it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't > > > > > appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd > > > > > remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library > > > > > quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. > > > > > > So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. > > > > > > Why would you post by bluff? > > > > > > > I dare you to prove that. I challenge you right now that he said it > > > > > > and you are going to have to find the truth of that out all on your > > > > > > own. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch; Gravity is the center of order in the universe- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Kip Thorne was simply the excuse maker for the failure of black hole > > > > theory. I challenge you. > > > > Empty challenge there, Mitch. You make up stuff as you go. That > > > doesn't make for much of a challenge.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Please demonstrate that GR is right when things will fall at light > > speed. > > GR doesn't say things will. > > > Kip Thorne made that excuse. > > I don't think so. Prove that he did. > > > > > I bet you in the future what Kip Thorne said as an excuse will be > > recognised as one of his biggest failures. I am waiting for that to > > happen. How much do you want to bet that it won't? > > How much did you earn panhandling today? I'll bet half that, so that > you can still get some lunch.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I challenge you to show that GR does not cause falling at light speed. I challenge Kip Thorne's excuse. How much do you want to bet that in the future you will find out you were wrong to deny what I have said? I can wait. How about you? Mitch Raemsch
From: Mitch Raemsch on 6 May 2010 15:36
On May 6, 11:17 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > PD wrote: > > [...] > > >> So are you saying that Kip didn't say this and that I am making it up? > > > I have the book in my bookshelves, Mitch. Last time I asked you about > > it, you gave me a page reference for a supposed quote, and it didn't > > appear anywhere on those pages. You then said something like you'd > > remembered seeing it when you flipped through the book in the library > > quite a while ago, but that you couldn't be quite sure. > > > So, yes, I think it's very likely you're just making it up. > > > Why would you post by bluff? > > To make better hands fold. > > [...] If that's what passes for clever to an online poker addict then you'll never be awarded multiple Nobel Prizes! |