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From: bill.sloman on 26 Nov 2008 10:56 On 26 nov, 07:49, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Bill Ward wrote: > > bill.sloman wrote: > > > > I work in NMR, FTMS, atom probing, various TOF technologies, and of > > > course electronic spectroscopy. > > > Actually, you build instruments for the physicists who do the work. > > You can't do that without having some grasp of what is going on, but > > your implicit claim that your practice of electronic spectroscopy > > gives you some insight into optical spectroscopy makes it pretty clear > > how superfical this grasp actually is. > > Actually he doesn't WORK ! > > He's been unemployed for years. He blames it on his age. I blame it on his attitude. That's a John Larkin quote. He claims to be still working. You really don't go in for careful reading, do you. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: bill.sloman on 26 Nov 2008 11:04 On 25 nov, 18:22, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > On 23 nov, 03:49, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > a7yvm109gf...(a)netzero.com wrote: > > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > z wrote: > > > > > > Actually, GISS now reports the corrected October temps as 5th highest > > > > > > But they LIED initially ANYWAY ! > > > > > That's absurd. Science works by self-correction mechanisms like this. > > > > You mean temperature works by self-correction mechanisms surely ? > > > If you weren't so depressing ignorant, you'd be aware that that the > > Milankovitch orbital perturbations that seem to have been driving the > > recent alternations between Ice Ages and interglacials need quite a > > lot of positive feedback to generate the observed perturbations in > > global temperature > > We're not talking about Ice Ages. > > Stick to the point. You've been indulging in unmarked snips again. Rich Grise was complaining that climate scientists ignore orbital perturbations, while in fact orbital perturbations happen to be the accepted explanation for the Ice Age versus Interglacial alternations we've been having over the last million years. The point is that we need a healthy dose of positive feedback to make the explanation work and similar positive feedback mechanisms could turn today's barely significant global warming into an end-Permian style global extinction. It isn't a high probability scenario, but we are taling about the only planet we've got. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: DeadFrog on 26 Nov 2008 11:05 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:492A4D45.717664(a)hotmail.com... > > > z wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > More snow here last night. >> > >> > Graham- >> >> a week before thanksgiving? damn, it's global cooling after all. > > We haven't had snow before Xmas here in years. A decade even ? Or more ? > > Graham > > Bollocks. A couple of days of snow in the South East in November is not unusual.
From: bill.sloman on 26 Nov 2008 11:13 On 25 nov, 22:32, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > Eeyore wrote: > > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > > Bill Ward <bw...(a)REMOVETHISix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps you could explain in your own words the scientific basis and > > > > > evidence for your beliefs, then we could debate it properly. > > > > > That would be something of a waste of time. > > > > Indeed because there is NONE ! It's like vapourware. > > > Graham - the master of the unmarked snip. The vapourware lies between > > Graham ears. In the sentences he snipped I did go on to point out that > > as long as the IPCC exists to detail the the scientific basis and > > evidence forfor global warming, it would be presumptuous of me to try > > to paraphrase their report, available at the URL below (which Graham > > also snipped - he doesn't like dealing with facts he can't > > understand). > > >http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr.pdf > > The IPCC are a bunch of politically driven agenda idiots. Look how they got > taken in by Mann. I wouldn't trust a word they say or print. The IPCC was set up by politicians to serve a political purpose. More rational observers - such as the Nobel Peace Prize committee - think they do a pretty good job. For some bizarre reason you put your trust in a bunch of web-sites funded by Exxon-Mobil and other groups with a financial interest in being able to continue to extract and sell the maximum amount of fossil fuel, despite the dangers that this poses to our environment. This doesn't say anything good about your judgement. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Al Bedo on 26 Nov 2008 11:25
bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: [regarding orbital variation with feedback] > The point is that we need a healthy dose of positive feedback to make > the explanation work and similar positive feedback mechanisms could > turn today's barely significant global warming into an end-Permian > style global extinction. It isn't a high probability scenario, but we > are taling about the only planet we've got. So what feedback are you suggesting? Not ice/albedo feedback of the glacials since that ice extended to mid-latitudes where there was enough insolation to matter. Not water vapor feedback because that doesn't seem to be occurring. What then? -- - When the Rapture comes, can I have your car? When global warming comes, can I have your coat? |