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From: Eeyore on 24 Nov 2008 19:48 bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > The Gulf Stream was observed to have decreased by about 30% from > > > earlier flow rates, suggesting that it might be in the process of > > > shutting down completely > > > > How does it suggest that ? It's colder today than yesterday. Does that mean it > > will be colder tomorrow too and so on? > > If something is less today than it was when you last looked at it, it > is obviously possible that it might be even smaller the next time you > look at it. Have you ever considered that such simplistic thinking is why you can't get a JOB ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 24 Nov 2008 19:50 bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > Scarcely. The cooling was real enough, if insignificant - and probably > > > had something to do with sulphur-dioxide-generated haze, which went > > > away when we tackled acid rain. > > > > Is there 'probably' a global warming God too ? > > Why don't you ask her? So you DO believe in deities ? Explains a lot ! Rational thinking can go out the window when a 'God' is about. Graham
From: bill.sloman on 25 Nov 2008 00:59 On 25 nov, 01:46, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > > growing corn the American way requires burning enough oil to more > > > > than counter-balance the carbon capture in the growing corn > > > > Even that's untrue. It's a common myth. The ROEI is a good 2:1 with modern > > > processes. So the naysayers quote old methods and studies only. > > > And your evidence to support this claim can be found where? > > Have you ever heard of Google ? I discovered it so long ago I no longer have it > in my bookmarks. You aren't exactly unique in this. The fact that you don't bookmark your references and seem to rely on your genius level memory to means that you don't get as much out of your searches as you ought. My quick search threw this up - which I would have read when it was first published http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11325 which doesn't exactly support your claim of a 2:1 ROE. There have been suggestions that by starting with prairie grasses that don't need as much fertiliser and insecticide one could do that well, but that isn't current practice, and it isn't what Dubya was subsidising. > Best modern practice was knocking on 2.2 IIRC. Despite the fact that corn is a > LOUSY source for bio-ethanol. > > In the UK, Shell ? or is it BP ? and Du Pont are working on converting a > bio-ethanol plant originally planned by British Sugar to process surplus sugar > beet into bio-ethanol to make bio-butanol. So what? > Butanol can be regarded as a straight replacement for petrol. NO changes > required. Energy density is virtually identical and it burns very cleanly in an > ICE. Again, not what Dubbya was subsidising. > Screw YOU ! On the evidence available, you've screwed yourself, by confusing optimistic claims about how bioethanol might score like if some researcher or other got enough research grants to support the development of their favourite scheme with the dire reality of of the schemes that Dubbya has been subsidising. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: bill.sloman on 25 Nov 2008 01:23 On 25 nov, 01:50, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > > Scarcely. The cooling was real enough, if insignificant - and probably > > > > had something to do with sulphur-dioxide-generated haze, which went > > > > away when we tackled acid rain. > > > > Is there 'probably' a global warming God too ? > > > Why don't you ask her? > > So you DO believe in deities ? Explains a lot ! Rational thinking can go out > the window when a 'God' is about. > > Graham
From: bill.sloman on 25 Nov 2008 01:29
On 25 nov, 01:50, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > > Scarcely. The cooling was real enough, if insignificant - and probably > > > > had something to do with sulphur-dioxide-generated haze, which went > > > > away when we tackled acid rain. > > > > Is there 'probably' a global warming God too ? > > > Why don't you ask her? > > So you DO believe in deities ? Explains a lot ! Rational thinking can go out > the window when a 'God' is about. I didn't say that I thought that you'd get an answer. I did think that you'd be more usefully occupied praying to an unresponsive diety than you are in posting erroneous nonsense on a electronics user-group. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen |