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From: Jim Thompson on 25 Nov 2008 18:53 On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:46:45 GMT, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org> wrote: >On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:30:44 +0000, Eeyore ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>James Arthur wrote: >> >>> bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Besides, droughts are normal. They happened long before "AGW". Read a bible for instance. >>> > >>> > The current series of drought years in Australia doesn't look any too >>> > normal. Modern records didn't start until January 1788 and weren't >>> > all that comprehensive for the next fifty years, but they don't record >>> > anything like as bad as the current sequence of dry years >>> > >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought_in_Australia >>> >>> "1880 to 1886 Drought in Victoria" >>> >>> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/08/australia.drought >>> >>> "With many regions in their fifth year of drought, the >>> government yesterday called an emergency water summit >>> in Canberra." >> >>So a shorter drought than the 1880 to 1886 one ! Damn that CO2 in 1880 ! >> >>Graham > >They could go the way that Santa Barbara does. When I was there, they >were in the fifth year of a drought, and started building a >desalination plant to provide water. They were encouraging >conservation so well, that the sewers were backing up due to lack of >flow to keep them clear. > >Then, just after I left, they got some rain, and the drought was over. >Then, they got some more rain. And, then some more rain, and they >were having mudslides and flooding all over the place. > >Then, some one did a little research. A hundred years before, there >was a great harbor at Santa Barbara, one of the reasons it was >settled. But, then they had a drought for six years, and the settlers >were hard put to survive. Then it started raining, and raining and >raining. The harbor is still a major transportation hub for the town, >but it is now called the Airport! > >Charlie Ah, Californica, the epitome of how environmentalism can cause self destruction. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | California is to Arizona as masturbation is to getting laid
From: Rich Grise on 25 Nov 2008 19:48 On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:46:56 +0000, Eeyore wrote: > > I recall from archive film footage of around the 1960s that it was popular > for old blokes to walk round the centre of London with 'sandwich boards' > saying "The End of the World is Nigh" and the like. I saw a cartoon of this, and the guy is saying, "Ten! Nine! Eight! Seven!..." ;-) Cheers! Rich
From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2008 00:18 Bill Ward wrote: > You didn't address any of the issues I raised. Are you unable, or do you > just know better than to try?# Of course he didn't. AGWists never do, they just repeat their propaganda. Goebbels would have been proud of them. The fact that REAL DATA totally undermines their case is of no interest to them. Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2008 00:19 Bill Ward wrote: > You didn't address any of the issues I raised. Are you unable, or do you > just know better than to try? Of course he didn't. AGWists never do, they just repeat their propaganda. Goebbels would have been proud of them. The fact that REAL DATA totally undermines their case is of no interest to them. Graham graphic attached that is compliant with the charters of almost every group due to its small size.
From: Eeyore on 26 Nov 2008 00:22
bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > I certainly don't command the computing capacity required to run that > kind of model Wouldn't matter if you did. The models are FUCKED ! Forget where I heard it but to model climate accurately you need something like 150 variables and the IPCC is using only about 90. The 90 they like. Besides, models only model LINEAR systems ! Climate is CHAOTIC. Jesus Wept. Graham |