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From: bill.sloman on 24 Nov 2008 18:33 On 23 nov, 21:34, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > Scarcely. The cooling was real enough, if insignificant - and probably > > had something to do with sulphur-dioxide-generated haze, which went > > away when we tackled acid rain. > > Is there 'probably' a global warming God too ? Why don't you ask her? -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: krw on 24 Nov 2008 18:41 In article <492B36FE.9050404(a)electrooptical.net>, pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net says...> > bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > As Arthur C. Clark put it, "any sufficiently advanced > > science is indistinguishable from magic" and Rich's understanding is > > retarded enough that the scientific basis for anthropogenic global > > warming does look like magic to him, along with TV and matches. > > Since the SNR of this thread is way too low for even DFE to fix, I'd > just like to give my favourite corollary to Clarke's Law: > > "Any technology that is distinguishable from magic is insufficiently > advanced." > > So everybody get busy doing engineering. ;) I bet you could design a kill filter if you had too. ;-)
From: Phil Hobbs on 24 Nov 2008 19:24 krw wrote: > In article <492B36FE.9050404(a)electrooptical.net>, > pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net says...> >> bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >>> As Arthur C. Clark put it, "any sufficiently advanced >>> science is indistinguishable from magic" and Rich's understanding is >>> retarded enough that the scientific basis for anthropogenic global >>> warming does look like magic to him, along with TV and matches. >> Since the SNR of this thread is way too low for even DFE to fix, I'd >> just like to give my favourite corollary to Clarke's Law: >> >> "Any technology that is distinguishable from magic is insufficiently >> advanced." >> >> So everybody get busy doing engineering. ;) > > I bet you could design a kill filter if you had too. ;-) > "Go ahead, make my day." Cheers, Phil Hobbs
From: Phil Hobbs on 24 Nov 2008 19:24 krw wrote: > In article <492B36FE.9050404(a)electrooptical.net>, > pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net says...> >> bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >>> As Arthur C. Clark put it, "any sufficiently advanced >>> science is indistinguishable from magic" and Rich's understanding is >>> retarded enough that the scientific basis for anthropogenic global >>> warming does look like magic to him, along with TV and matches. >> Since the SNR of this thread is way too low for even DFE to fix, I'd >> just like to give my favourite corollary to Clarke's Law: >> >> "Any technology that is distinguishable from magic is insufficiently >> advanced." >> >> So everybody get busy doing engineering. ;) > > I bet you could design a kill filter if you had too. ;-) > "Go ahead, make my day." Cheers, Phil Hobbs
From: Eeyore on 24 Nov 2008 19:46
bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > growing corn the American way requires burning enough oil to more > > > than counter-balance the carbon capture in the growing corn > > > > Even that's untrue. It's a common myth. The ROEI is a good 2:1 with modern > > processes. So the naysayers quote old methods and studies only. > > And your evidence to support this claim can be found where? Have you ever heard of Google ? I discovered it so long ago I no longer have it in my bookmarks. Best modern practice was knocking on 2.2 IIRC. Despite the fact that corn is a LOUSY source for bio-ethanol. In the UK, Shell ? or is it BP ? and Du Pont are working on converting a bio-ethanol plant originally planned by British Sugar to process surplus sugar beet into bio-ethanol to make bio-butanol. Butanol can be regarded as a straight replacement for petrol. NO changes required. Energy density is virtually identical and it burns very cleanly in an ICE. Screw YOU ! Graham |