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From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2008 16:33 MooseFET wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Don't forget the world's COOLING btw ! > > The sun spots are back When ? And how many ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2008 16:34 bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...(a)example.net> wrote: > > > > Bill Ward wrote: > > > > > > > Perhaps you could explain in your own words the scientific basis and > > > > > evidence for your beliefs, then we could debate it properly. > > > > > > When you say, "the scientific basis and evidence for your beliefs", > > > > are you talking about the beliefs or the warmingsts, or the belief > > > > of the real scientists? In real science, we believe in the facts, > > > > which the warmingists avoid like a vampire avoids mirrors. > > > > > Not exactly true. When I do point you at facts, you proceed to ignore > > > them. > > > > Because 'AGW facts' are rarely facts at all but 'masssaged' or 'corrected' or > > otherwise tinkered with, excused or eliminated to fit the theory. > > Graham - unsophisticated as he is - has never had to calibrate a > sensor WRONG already. Graham
From: Rich the Philosophizer on 25 Nov 2008 17:34 On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:56:12 +0000, James Arthur wrote: > ... > It's all the Mayan's fault. They did it. They also wrote the calendar where the world ends in 2012: "The events predicted for 2012 by the ancient Maya are not substantially different than those predicted by sages throughout the millennia. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and other seers have predicted similar events marking 'the end of time.' And the Maya are only one of many indigenous cultures that have spoken of their deeply held vision for the events near and immediately after the end of time." --- http://godchannel.com/grandfatherinterview2.html ;-) Cheers! Rich
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2008 17:46 Rich the Philosophizer wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:56:12 +0000, James Arthur wrote: > > ... > > It's all the Mayan's fault. They did it. > > They also wrote the calendar where the world ends in 2012: We're DOOMED ! > "The events predicted for 2012 by the ancient Maya are not substantially > different than those predicted by sages throughout the millennia. > Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and other seers have > predicted similar events marking 'the end of time.' And the Maya are > only one of many indigenous cultures that have spoken of their deeply > held vision for the events near and immediately after the end of time." > --- http://godchannel.com/grandfatherinterview2.html > ;-) I recall from archive film footage of around the 1960s that it was popular for old blokes to walk round the centre of London with 'sandwich boards' saying "The End of the World is Nigh" and the like. Presumably they're all dead now. I wonder how they felt considering their prophesy hadn't come true (maybe they just thought they'd got the timing out slightly) and will Bill Sloman feel the same ? Graham
From: Charlie E. on 25 Nov 2008 18:46
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:30:44 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >James Arthur wrote: > >> bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Besides, droughts are normal. They happened long before "AGW". Read a bible for instance. >> > >> > The current series of drought years in Australia doesn't look any too >> > normal. Modern records didn't start until January 1788 and weren't >> > all that comprehensive for the next fifty years, but they don't record >> > anything like as bad as the current sequence of dry years >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought_in_Australia >> >> "1880 to 1886 Drought in Victoria" >> >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/08/australia.drought >> >> "With many regions in their fifth year of drought, the >> government yesterday called an emergency water summit >> in Canberra." > >So a shorter drought than the 1880 to 1886 one ! Damn that CO2 in 1880 ! > >Graham They could go the way that Santa Barbara does. When I was there, they were in the fifth year of a drought, and started building a desalination plant to provide water. They were encouraging conservation so well, that the sewers were backing up due to lack of flow to keep them clear. Then, just after I left, they got some rain, and the drought was over. Then, they got some more rain. And, then some more rain, and they were having mudslides and flooding all over the place. Then, some one did a little research. A hundred years before, there was a great harbor at Santa Barbara, one of the reasons it was settled. But, then they had a drought for six years, and the settlers were hard put to survive. Then it started raining, and raining and raining. The harbor is still a major transportation hub for the town, but it is now called the Airport! Charlie |