From: White Spirit on
On 26/03/2010 00:48, Ignoramus30639 wrote:

> I would like to state that in a chase after the latest and greatest
> concepts, developers of Gnome and Ubuntu are not paying attention to
> the basics, and my feeling is that we are deteriorating into a big
> mess.

Try KDE4. I recommend it.
From: The Natural Philosopher on
Ignoramus30639 wrote:
> On 2010-03-26, The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Debian stable lenny is pretty good for me.
>>
>> I've used backports to get the latest kernel, virtual box and open office.
>>
>> Slightly peeved that Firefox latest is not there. Compiled that
>>
>> Got some screen bugs with Firfox/iceweasel/GTK not playing nice/.
>>
>> Runs broadcom wireless OK.
>>
>> cant answer for USB sticks: they self mount ..never tried them on fstab.
>>
>> DVB is a tad flakey - have to use totem Xine, and had trouble getting
>> stable WMV plugin Think its xlc or something.
>>
>> But its pretty stable now.
>>
>
> I will install Debian Lenny 5.0.4 somewhere and will report results.
>
> I assume that I can just upgrade it with apt-get and then get new
> release with some shell command. Right?
>

Do you mean upgrade FROM ubuntu, or upgrade it from a fresh install of
itself?


> It has Network Manager?
>
Probably. If by that you mean a windows like GUI that allows you to
manually connect to WiFi.

I have to say, I junked it in favour of a 'connect at boot time' script..


> Thanks a lot.
>
> i
From: mechanic on
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:43:20 -0700, Patrick Callahan wrote:

> Debian has them, but not in the main repos. They're in the non-free section,
> like on Ubuntu. The package names will be the same.

Except Ubuntu call it multiverse or restricted.

--
mechanic
From: Ignoramus8345 on
On 2010-03-26, White Spirit <wspirit(a)homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
> On 26/03/2010 00:48, Ignoramus30639 wrote:
>
>> I would like to state that in a chase after the latest and greatest
>> concepts, developers of Gnome and Ubuntu are not paying attention to
>> the basics, and my feeling is that we are deteriorating into a big
>> mess.
>
> Try KDE4. I recommend it.

Do you run it daily? Is it stable?

i
From: Ignoramus8345 on
On 2010-03-26, The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Ignoramus30639 wrote:
>> On 2010-03-26, The Natural Philosopher <tnp(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Debian stable lenny is pretty good for me.
>>>
>>> I've used backports to get the latest kernel, virtual box and open office.
>>>
>>> Slightly peeved that Firefox latest is not there. Compiled that
>>>
>>> Got some screen bugs with Firfox/iceweasel/GTK not playing nice/.
>>>
>>> Runs broadcom wireless OK.
>>>
>>> cant answer for USB sticks: they self mount ..never tried them on fstab.
>>>
>>> DVB is a tad flakey - have to use totem Xine, and had trouble getting
>>> stable WMV plugin Think its xlc or something.
>>>
>>> But its pretty stable now.
>>>
>>
>> I will install Debian Lenny 5.0.4 somewhere and will report results.
>>
>> I assume that I can just upgrade it with apt-get and then get new
>> release with some shell command. Right?
>>
>
> Do you mean upgrade FROM ubuntu, or upgrade it from a fresh install of
> itself?

I mean upgrade from a fresh install of itself.

>
>> It has Network Manager?
>>
> Probably. If by that you mean a windows like GUI that allows you to
> manually connect to WiFi.

To wifi, and to wireless broadband and modems.

> I have to say, I junked it in favour of a 'connect at boot time' script..

connect at boot time does not work for me -- I use too many different
ways of connecting.

i